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Post21-11-2010, 0:10    Subject: Quote

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...and specifically for virtually all VAG vehicles.


Maximum 50-60% coverage is achievable, and with WFS4c (which corresponds to model year 2007 for Golf models, etc.), that's the limit. This is by no means a complete solution, and if you don't want to buy pirated copies, then proper tools cost a significant amount of money. You really need to start with amounts well above four digits, but even then, it's just a drop in the bucket.


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Post21-11-2010, 0:32    Subject: Quote

Furthermore, with WFS4c (which refers to MJ 2007 models like the Golf, etc.)


aha... just because your glorious VCDS is not able to provide transponder and "special" MSG-specific data doesn't mean it's not possible, and you know that too icon_smile.gif.
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Post21-11-2010, 1:00    Subject: Quote

...and that's for pretty much all VAG vehicles.

Maximum 50-60% coverage, furthermore, production of WFS4c (i.e., MJ 2007 for Golf models, etc.) has ended.

No, it's also possible icon_wink.gif. It's even relatively simple. If you know how icon_cool.gif icon_wink.gif.


aha... just because your glorious VCDS is not able to provide transponder and 'special' MSG-specific data doesn't mean it's not possible, and you know that too icon_smile.gif.

That has nothing to do with VCDS. What you're referring to is the transfer of data when pairing the speedometer to the engine control unit or something similar. The keys don't work for a completely different reason icon_lol.gif.


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Post21-11-2010, 11:24    Subject: Quote

Actually, not really. For example, the CS bytes of a MSG, and there are tools that allow you to clone or modify the data content of transponders. There are blank transponders for this, you just need to know where icon_wink.gif. And you don't even have to delete the old keys for that...
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Post21-11-2010, 14:10    Subject: Quote

Actually, not really. For example, the CS bytes of a MSG, and there are tools that allow you to clone or modify the data content of transponders. There are blank transponders for that, you just need to know where icon_wink.gif. And you don't even have to delete the old keys for that...

You're mixing things up again. icon_cool.gif The problem with keys from 2007 onwards has nothing to do with the MSG. And blank transponders won't help without the corresponding 'medicine.' Cloning also doesn't work with WFS4(c). icon_cool.gif


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Post22-11-2010, 17:26    Subject: Quote

Then explain why not. icon_cool.gif
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Post22-11-2010, 20:14    Subject: Quote

Then please explain why not. icon_cool.gif

No way icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_wink.gif Figure it out yourself icon_biggrin.gif icon_cool.gif. If you delve into it thoroughly, the principle becomes relatively clear quickly. The foundation is the WFS III with some (good) improvements. icon_wink.gif


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Post23-11-2010, 10:35    Subject: Quote

Thank you for the information, Mulle icon_smile.gif.
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