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Post09-10-2013, 22:26    Subject: Lupo 3L DSG: Which ECU (EDC15P+)? Quote

Hello.

Does anyone have experience with different DSG versions? The question is, which DSG version can be easily interfaced with the EDC15P+ ECU from a 3L engine?

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Post10-10-2013, 16:03    Subject: Lupo 3L DSG: Which ECU (EDC15P+)? Quote

Golf IV DSG. For the others, you would first need to teach them CAN-BUS 1.6.

Sure, here is the translation of the text from German to English:

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Post10-10-2013, 16:34    Subject: Lupo 3L DSG: Which ECU (EDC15P+)? Quote

There is no DSG transmission available for 1.9-liter engines in the Golf 4. Also, a Golf 5 DSG transmission with the mechatronics unit from a Golf 4 will go into limp mode because the values for the shaft speeds are not compatible.

So, the Golf 4 has a CAN 1.6 system? What about the G5? And the 2.0?


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Post10-10-2013, 20:50    Subject: Lupo 3L DSG: Which ECU (EDC15P+)? Quote

There is no DSG available for 1.9 engines in the Golf 4. And a Golf 5 DSG with the mechatronics from a Golf 4 will run in limp mode because the values for the shaft speed are not compatible.

The Golf 4 has CAN 1.6, so what does the G5 have? 2.0?

However, there is the .:R32 with DSG icon_wink.gif.


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Post10-10-2013, 21:08    Subject: Lupo 3L DSG: Which ECU (EDC15P+)? Quote

Kann mir das irgendwie helfen? Selbst wenn die 1,9er DSG Getriebeglocke vom 5er Golf an das R32 DSG passt, habe ich eine Ultra kurze Übersetzung. Werden um die 150 Km/h bei 4000 rpm. im 6. To be cool.

I had already installed a R32 mechatronic unit in the Golf 5 transmission. The transmission was running in a limp mode.


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Post10-10-2013, 21:15    Subject: Lupo 3L DSG: Which ECU (EDC15P+)? Quote

Kann mir das irgendwie helfen? Selbst wenn die 1,9er DSG Getriebeglocke vom 5er Golf an das R32 DSG passt, habe ich eine Ultra kurze Übersetzung. Werden um die 150 Km/h bei 4000 rpm. im 6. To be cool.

I had already installed the R32 mechatronic in the Golf 5 transmission. The transmission was running in a limp mode.

Golf 4!!!! .:R32... Not G5.

Regarding the translation, that would need to be calculated. I don't know that off the top of my head icon_cool.gif icon_wink.gif.


And a Golf 5 DSG with the mechatronics from a Golf 4 is running in emergency mode because the values for the shaft speeds are not correct.

But shouldn't that be adjustable? icon_eek.gif


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Post10-10-2013, 21:59    Subject: Lupo 3L DSG: Which ECU (EDC15P+)? Quote

Ja, den 4er R32 meine ich doch. Ich habe 2 Stück davon vor der Tür stehen. Da braucht man nicht mal anfangen zu rechnen. IIt's much too short.

That's why I'm looking for a solution. So far, I haven't found anyone who can customize it.


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Post18-10-2013, 10:03    Subject: Lupo 3L DSG: Which ECU (EDC15P+)? Quote

Do you have a CAN logger or something like that? Because if only the RPM values have "incorrect" offsets/factors, it might be possible to correct it.

Are VCDS and a flasher available for the MSG?

Then I might be able to help with that.

Sure, here is the translation of the text from German to English:

"Hello"


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Post18-10-2013, 11:00    Subject: Lupo 3L DSG: Which ECU (EDC15P+)? Quote

Now it's getting funny. icon_rolleyes.gif


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Post18-10-2013, 11:38    Subject: Lupo 3L DSG: Which ECU (EDC15P+)? Quote

To my knowledge, there was no standard EDC15 engine control unit from the VAG group that supported a DSG transmission in any way.
I therefore consider the realization of such a project to be quite difficult.


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Post18-10-2013, 11:46    Subject: Lupo 3L DSG: Which ECU (EDC15P+)? Quote

Correct icon_smile.gif
That's why I'm asking the person who started the thread if they're fit enough...
He seems to have installed one before. The interface to the engine control unit is actually quite simple with the EDC15. There are only a few CAN IDs that are important for the transmission control unit (read-only!).

The actual intervention from the transmission control unit (TCU) is achieved through an external torque/moment control via CAN bus.

Whether a DSG, a torque converter, or an automated manual transmission is installed, it makes absolutely no difference to the MSG.

Sure, here is the translation of the text from German to English:

"Hello"


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Post18-10-2013, 12:07    Subject: Lupo 3L DSG: Which ECU (EDC15P+)? Quote

Well, I'm curious icon_wink.gif.


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Post19-10-2013, 9:38    Subject: Lupo 3L DSG: Which ECU (EDC15P+)? Quote

Hello.

I have VCDS. I can borrow things like a CAN logger and flasher. I don't have much knowledge about the CAN bus myself. I have someone who is helping me with it. The goal is to program an interface that connects CAN 1.6 and 2.0. Currently, we are missing information about the necessary CAN signals for a Golf 5 DSG. I have an appointment next week to read out the CAN data. Then I will see what else needs to be done.

Regards,

Paul.


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