What do you think of this vehicle concept?

http://www.loremo.com/

Data:
2-cylinder turbodiesel engine with 20 horsepower
or
3-cylinder turbodiesel with 50 hp

While it's not available until 2009, I find it interesting
I definitely do!

Hi,

In my opinion, it's a brilliant invention.
The information regarding the maximum speed seems questionable to me.
It is a concept that humanity needs.
The price also seems to be okay.
I'm thrilled!

Greetings

Borys

The data seems unbelievable to me.

Does the part need to accelerate faster than a 2.0 16V engine and have a higher top speed? (e.g., Vectra B, I know the data from it by chance)


And then there's an old S-Class (W140, the armored S-Class) lying across... and you're on the right side.

NOPE, without me.

Well, when it comes to Vmax, every car is "at its limit"...

But still: How do I get out of the box after a frontal collision if the entire front of the car is the door? And reversing (rear passengers) is something that many people find difficult...

Don't think that such a radical concept has any chance of success. Also not in 2009 either.

However, a lightweight, suspension-focused, and fuel-efficient approach seems promising.

Okay, the data seems quite realistic to me.

The 20 HP version already takes 20 seconds to go from 0 to 100.

And with 50 horsepower, 9 seconds (at 470 kg) is not that unrealistic.
(My old gasoline-powered Polo had 50 horsepower/740 kg and took 12-13 seconds to reach 100 km/h)

The maximum speed is actually limited only by:
Bitte gib den deutschen Text an, den du übersetzt haben möchtest.
and air resistance.
(There's nowhere to find out how long it takes to achieve this)

For me, the consumption figures seem a bit strange.

In my opinion, 1.5 l/100km is already a very low figure.
And that also doesn't really match the 2.7l of the more powerful version.
(assuming we're going roughly the same speed, of course...)

Yes, please read carefully...does it say here at which speed the 1.5-liter consumption was achieved? Is it related to a specific consumption cycle? I'm not seeing anything. Perhaps in the "Riesenoval" in Papenbur, on page 5? Speed at 1100 rpm and 72 km/h.

Unrealistic. But I find it quite nice, and unfortunately, completely unsuccessful. So, I would be interested, because for 11,000 euros, I could get a usable car with up to 3 liters of diesel. That sounds quite appealing.

What kind of engine is it? 2 cylinders is clear, who manufactures it, what kind of fuel injection system, what is the maintenance interval, how much displacement?

The security concept must be robust, otherwise they will never think about sales...

What I also really like is that in Austria until
27 HP, barely more than engine control.

D.h. it would be the perfect second car. (You can
...actually, it also saves on things like license plate transfers...)

I believe that 1.5 l/100km is already a very low figure.
And regarding the DPF, it seems like it doesn't fit properly. If the fuel consumption is actually what it should be, I'd be interested in knowing the empty weight. Unfortunately, there's also nothing essential mentioned about the engine design. They should rather develop and install a small Elbett motor .

'It will definitely sell just as well as a smart CDI or a 3L Lupo. Okay, aside from the high purchase price of the smaller models, the trend is definitely towards the 3L (engine displacement) car .' Actually, no wonder given the increasing accumulation of wealth.

Such concepts will only become commercially viable when the price of a liter of diesel reaches €2.50 or more. Therefore, the average person will be faced with the choice of either not driving a car at all or so driving a car. If comfortable and enjoyable (the so-called 'golf class') is a relic from the past, which some still consider to be a classic car, for a small outing every Sunday.

Currently, the disadvantages outweigh the advantages, especially the low transport capacity (loading volume, payload mass) and the particularly popular passive safety features today.

It would certainly be more interesting if this were produced in a low-wage country like China, especially since the motorization of the population with conventional cars would completely exhaust the world's oil production there - therefore, one simply cannot do without such vehicles there.

A DPF would be ridiculous under a scenario where such vehicles would become interesting. If there were a rise in fuel prices, traffic density would initially decrease, so that the current proportion of particulate matter from diesel passenger cars would decrease from 5% to below 1%. Wood-heating systems (fireplaces, etc.) which are currently experiencing a renaissance and are being praised as 'environmentally friendly' would then account for the lion's share of particulate matter emissions.

If the product is truly as advertised, I'd be interested in knowing the net weight.

440kg.

The consumption is certain, as Matthias already suspected, 'Overland', meaning a constant 90 km/h on flat roads.

But even with a real 2.5L/100km, it would still be half as thirsty as today's small cars.

In my opinion, the part would only be viable for bulk sales at a price of less than €5,000. Otherwise, his fate is the same as that of the Smart CDI, the Lupo 3L, or the Audi A2. ('Economical at all costs')

What I find particularly noteworthy is the maintenance cost of 390€ per year. This amount covers 2.5 years (for maintenance only). What could possibly be inside?

And here's another similar one, so I don't have to create a new thread.

http://www.jetcar.de/index.html

But it's also not really anything good.

Has anyone already inquired about the estimated cost?

But unfortunately, the jet cars are twice as heavy as the 1.5l car.

And it only has a maximum of 2 seats.

SeatArosa1.7SDI wrote:

Such concepts will only become commercially viable when the price of diesel reaches 2.50€ or more per liter.

I really enjoy digging up old Freds.
BTW, it was about this bowl here:
Here is the translation of the provided text, keeping all s exactly as they are:

"**11,000 Euro - 1.5-liter consumption - saving car**

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"However, test drives reported figures of 1.9 liters/100km, and we've already exceeded the 2.5€/liter price without any major issues."
During the "very close to the border" phase (when returning from Italy a few weeks ago, prices were quoted at around 2.48€ per liter for diesel, and even up to 3 cents for super diesel in Italy), I actually noticed a certain hesitation, regarding the free flow of traffic on German highways and the Polish fleet (i.e., those white trucks with tarpaulins) closely following trucks like a string of pearls. However, the situation has now stabilized, and surprisingly, the price at which I can now buy fuel, whether before or after the government's intervention, is the same.
Would you rather take out a loan for the gas station than accept a more affordable, new vehicle concept?
Or is the issue resolved thanks to the (also scarce) generators, which, while not as long-lasting as a combustion engine, can still be used to generate power until the battery is almost depleted, allowing for much more intense operation than if there were no power source?

What would happen if someone were to realize and offer a concept that would cost only a few thousand dollars to implement?