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Post04-02-2004, 12:15    Subject: KIA_ Carnival _03 Quote

a beautiful good day

This is my first time on this forum, and I would like to thank everyone.
those who made it happen

Okay, now to my question?
Kia Carnival CDI, year 2003
iso protocol 9141 Pin assignment 4-5-7-15-16
with which interface and software can you read the vehicle's data
Does your interface support this protocol?
how are experiences?

I am very grateful for any response, as the repair shop is simply becoming too expensive in the long run.


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Post05-02-2004, 10:24    Subject: The disadvantage of foreigners Quote

This is a common problem with the inexpensive vehicles from East Asia.

It's difficult to get information, and some parts are very expensive to obtain, often not available anymore after 10 years, which limits the resale value to the price per kilogram.

And as an employee of a German automobile manufacturer, I am inclined to write:


Why don't you try it on Korean websites!


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Post05-02-2004, 20:08    Subject: KIA_ Carnival _03 Translating...

[Translating...]Hallo Walter

deinen Kommentar hättest Du Dir sparen können denn das ist blödes prol gelaber
im übrigen habe ich ein MB V -D- auch und der kann dem Kia nicht das Wasser reichen
und lass es lieber auch Neuling in einem Forum was du nicht kennst und weißt wie Geflogenheiten hier sind die Leute gleich bei einem erststart irgend wie anzumachen
denn das zeigt von großer unkompetenz /(........)

und im übrigen lese erst die Fragen durch bevor du antwortest
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Post05-02-2004, 21:33    Subject: KIA_ Carnival _03 Translating...

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Werter Kollege Rain,

der erste Teil von Walters Aussage ist leider korrekt. So was wie VAGCOM wird es für dein Auto nur da geben wo es auch massenhaft gefahren wird. Zu diesen Orten zählt D leider nicht.
Ich gehe aber davon aus das das Auto OBD2 Kompatibel ist, dann tut der Vehicle Explorer in Verbindung mit einem OBD Interface die wichtigsten Dienste.
Eine ordentliche Motordiagnose ist damit leider nicht möglich.


Der Zweite Teil ist seine Persönliche Meinung und die kann er auch so äussern, das ist aber lange kein Grund so gereitzt darauf zu reagieren.
Gruß Bertil

Skoda 5E5 CZDA + Mini R50 W10 + VW ID.3 + Fiat Ducato 250 + 161 DX

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Post06-02-2004, 15:17    Subject: @ Bertil & Rain Quote

Hello,

I tried to phrase it in a friendly way, but I earn my living in the German/European automotive industry, and it has become known that I have some expertise in the field.

Now, I'm constantly being asked by people I've only met twice about what might be wrong with their 'rice cookers,' because the two-person operation, which bought them cheaply, doesn't know how to fix them.And if I then truthfully answer that I don't know anything about these cars, it will be implicitly assumed that I am unwilling and unhelpful.

I've already been thinking about telling everyone that I work only as a janitor in the future.

Maybe someone now understands the second part of my answer from someone who has been actively involved in it for the past 4 years, with an order volume of over 50 million euros being shifted from Germany to the rest of the world.I will be paid to cut off my own branch.


And one more thing - and I mean this in a completely neutral way:
Kia, like all Asian brands, has a good hotline because the workshops in Asia don't have the same level of training as here, and therefore, things have to be handled differently there.
The number in Korea can be found on the internet (only) on the Korean page, and you also need someone who can ask the right questions in Korean and correctly translate the answer. (No information available in English!)
We have a colleague from OSAKA here who is working on it for Japanese cars, although the workshops in Germany are already better.


And before anyone accuses me of being nationalistic: If someone in Korea (and other countries in East Asia) drives a Mercedes or a large BMW, it's because it's a sign that they've achieved something and earned it. If they drove a Polo or something similar, it would damage the local economy, because then they could also drive a Korean car. They would be seen as a threat by their colleagues, and their job could be at risk in the Korean automotive industry.Imagine it here with us!


Walter


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Post06-02-2004, 16:08    Subject: KIA_ Carnival _03 Translating...

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Hallo,

die haben Hier http://kia.kuroto.org/phpBB/index.php wenigsten die Richtige Übersetzung. KIA = Killing In Action.

Scherz beiseite. Wie Walter schon richtig schrieb können Fernost Autos richtig teuer werden, wenn die ersten Jahre mit Garantie vorbei sind. Ersatzteile sind beim Schrotti nicht vorhanden und nirgendwo in Europa bevorratet. Eine superschnelle Modellwechselpolitik tut ihr übriges. Die Teile sind aber meist in 3-6Wochen über den Seeweg zu einem Höllenpreis beschaffbar. Mein Kollege hat nach 8 Monaten sein Automatikgetriebe für seinen Honda Shuttle (Welle abgerissen) wieder flott bekommen. Ein Teil des Problems war die völlige Unfähigkeit der Werkstatt (Kein ausschliessliches Fernostproblem wie die meisten hier Erfahren mussten) und das Nichtwissen des Importeurs über seinen von ihm selbst autorisierten Reparaturbetrieb.

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