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Jarek Blaumann

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22-02-2006, 20:26 Subject: Timing Belt Kit: Brands & Manufacturers |
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Hello.
I need to get the timing belt replaced soon.
I need a new sentence.
My old VAG set has:
Tensioner from LITENS Canada.
INA Germany roller bearing.
Timing belt? Supposedly GATES.
In Rainer's Conti system, the tensioning roller failed prematurely.
Is this an exception or the rule?
Who still uses Contisatz tires? They're quite cheap at E***, at 49 euros.
Which roller manufacturers, besides LITENS, are suppliers to VAG, or which other manufacturers can you recommend?
(Ruville, Optimal kG, Quinton Hazel, Meyle, SWAG, Febi Bilstein, MKG)???
The tensioner is very important to me.
Has anyone installed a GATES timing belt kit, and what brand is on the tensioner pulley?
Please provide factual statements, as this topic has been inadequately addressed in the forum.
Thank you very much.
Jarek. MB S212 220 CDI MOPF Avantgarde
Passat B7 2,0 TDI 140PS,CFFB,Bj,2012
Polo 6R 1,4 Benzin 86 PS,CGGB Bj.2010
LPG-Umbau BRC Sequent 32 .
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dieselmartin Profi-Schrauber


Joined: 03/13/2003 Posts: 10121 Karma: +29 / -0 Location: in der Werkstatt 2007 Volkswagen Passat Premium Support
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23-02-2006, 3:46 Subject: Timing Belt Kit: Brands & Manufacturers |
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Hi,
I simply got the whole thing from VW. With the financing, it wasn't that expensive, and I felt quite secure in case something didn't fit.
Besides, I believe I can cause more trouble for my local VW dealer than I ever could for some online parts reseller.
I am currently experiencing this with a memory card that I probably should have bought locally at the Nokia store  .
The online seller (not e*** but memory-world.de) has the defective product and my money, and is no longer responding.
I would have visited the local store every single day. Transparency, Teamwork
... there was another T.
I don't know what the f*ck it was.
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BM Profi-Schrauber


Joined: 12/07/2005 Posts: 1857 Karma: +8 / -0 Location: Nähe Düsseldorf
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23-02-2006, 14:18 Subject: Timing Belt Kit: Brands & Manufacturers |
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Quote: | Which tension roller manufacturer, besides LITENS VAG, is a supplier, or which other manufacturer can you recommend?
(Ruville, Optimal kG, Quinton Hazel, Meyle, SWAG, Febi Bilstein, MKG) ??? |
To my knowledge, Litens is the only manufacturer that produces this specific type of component.
I have always found the Litens roll inside the packaging so far.
Be careful if the manufacturer is not indicated on the roll! 3B5 AJM
Wer nichts weiss, muss alles glauben.
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matthiasTDI96 Profi-Schrauber

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23-02-2006, 15:08 Subject: Timing Belt Kit: Brands & Manufacturers |
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I completely agree. I wouldn't use extremely cheap products from 3 2 1 in such important areas. Unfortunately, alongside stolen parts and counterfeit goods, there are only a few reputable offers left.
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Roger Profi-Schrauber


Joined: 10/11/2002 Posts: 3035 Karma: +88 / -0 Location: Rodgau 2017 Volkswagen Golf Premium Support
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23-02-2006, 16:25 Subject: Timing Belt Kit: Brands & Manufacturers |
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I tend to trust VW's quality control more when it comes to parts like that. The thread about Rainer's disassembled roller also only leads to one conclusion: buy the original part.
Furthermore, it's likely that only Volkswagen itself is currently up-to-date regarding the ZR tooth flank profile, which has been modified several times. Gruß
Roger
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nobbif Blaumann

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23-02-2006, 21:53 Subject: Timing Belt Kit: Brands & Manufacturers |
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Hello,
While my experiences with timing belts are a bit older (from 1998-99), I'm happy to share them.
We set up several timing belt test benches at the ITV (Institute for Technical Combustion, University of Hanover) and conducted endurance tests for Volkswagen.
Modified ESP with a fixed, increased injection quantity, ESP test oil, endurance tests, torque measurements, etc.
VP engines used belts from Conti, Gates, and Dyco.
Conclusion: Conti is the best; Gates is similar, but slightly worse; other manufacturers were not recommended at that time.
We did not systematically test the tension rollers; we always used the tension rollers provided by VW. The part number matched the serial number, so they were the original tension rollers that were installed.
Whether it's superstition or not, I've been using exclusively Conti belts ever since.
Regards,
nobbif
Bitte gib mir den deutschen Text, den du übersetzt haben möchtest.
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Bertil Profi-Schrauber

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23-02-2006, 22:47 Subject: Timing Belt Kit: Brands & Manufacturers |
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nobbif wrote: | ...
We did not systematically test the tension rollers; we always used the tension rollers provided by VW. The part number matched the serial number, and they were the original tension rollers that were installed. |
Contitech kits primarily include tensioner pulleys with VW ET (Electronic Teile Catalogue) numbers. Gruß Bertil
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Holger247 Schrauber

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27-02-2006, 14:44 Subject: Timing Belt Kit: Brands & Manufacturers |
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A friend of mine also had a tensioner break on a Conti timing chain kit.
I would prefer to buy an original VW part. Even if it's made by the same manufacturer as another part offered on the market, it might be of higher quality.
Manufacturers cannot afford to draw attention to themselves in VW's quality control processes. Therefore, if differences are detectable, the better parts are more likely to be supplied to VW, while the others are sold freely (e.g., components that are at the limits of their tolerances or similar).
"Furthermore, during my timing belt replacement, I noticed that the VW part number had changed; there was a newer replacement part available. The belt I purchased from VW was also manufactured by Conti."
In many other areas, you can save money by using good quality replacement parts from the aftermarket, but not when it comes to the timing belt. --------------------------------------------
GIV - 98 - ALH
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320000kilometer Blaumann

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27-02-2006, 19:43 Subject: Experiences from a Different Job Field. |
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In my area of work, I repair electric motors. Most often, we only replace the bearings. These motors drive rollers, fans, etc. continuously, using V-belts and toothed belts.
The timing belts of individual manufacturers always reach the specified service life, but Continental products perform better when the belts are contaminated with oil or grease, or when they wear unevenly.
In my Golf, I only use Conti timing belts and idler pulleys from VAG or SKF.
"With all other types of bearings and V-belts, I don't mind; I always have a second chance there."
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