PDEs for ATD or AXR

Hello!

I am considering purchasing a Golf IV with a 74kW PD engine.
For me, it is also important to consider the subsequent costs associated with this purchase.
Since I have already heard about several problems with PDEs on the internet,
I tried to find out their price.
I found a 4-piece set for 96 kW (e.g., Passat) on eBay for only 199,- Euro.

Does anyone of you know a cheap source for PDEs for the above-mentioned golf engine?
The prices should not deviate significantly from the PDEs for the larger engines.

Greetings


Markus883



PS: The 'assessment' during registration was quite amusing. *g*

Markus883 wrote:

I am considering purchasing a Golf IV with a 74kW PD engine. For me, it is also important to consider the subsequent costs associated with this purchase. Since I have already heard about several problems with PDEs on the internet...

What kind of problems?
I am also familiar with occasional failures/malfunctions (from reading).

But I haven't, surprisingly, read anything about wear-related quasi-routine replacements like those seen with VP nozzles so far.
Either, therefore, PDEs have a "relatively eternal life," or the knowledge of the wear and tear of PDEs is not yet widespread enough due to the lack of many vehicles with corresponding mileage.

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P.S.: The "test" during registration was quite amusing. *g*

Depends on the participant's level But so far, it's enough to keep this website largely free of pointless chatter . . .

hello markus,

Welcome, you ignorant fool!!!

'I've read a lot too, but nothing that routinely gets replaced somewhere. However, I think that PDE's are also wear-and-tear parts like normal nozzles, and therefore don't have an eternal lifespan. The spray pattern will certainly deteriorate over time, and I could imagine a dripping effect. Look at how many people are still driving with the first set of nozzles beyond 200,000 or even 300,000 km. But in my opinion, it's a ticking time bomb (see oil consumption).'

Regarding the PDES for the small machine: please email the supplier. Otherwise, the larger ones from AWX should also be used. This might give you an effect... and with a larger turbocharger and a little bit of tuning, you're guaranteed to get 170 horsepower... Now, let's be completely serious: this is similar to the 216-sized nozzles. Larger bores, more throughput per unit of time...

Hello!

Thank you in advance for the quick responses.

@Ulf
I meant problems that require replacement.
Do you mean by occasional failures/malfunctions, short-term disruptions or simply defective PDEs that need to be replaced, but this doesn't happen very often?
The difference is that a nozzle pre-spray nozzle costs significantly less than €100.

@joergs
I have already emailed the provider, but he hasn't responded yet.
I am also expecting a negative response, because he doesn't offer one on eBay.

@all
During the test drive, after about 1-2 minutes driving in first gear on the property, I noticed a very unpleasant engine noise for approximately 10 seconds. (This was characterized by a relatively loud knocking sound and some shaking). After that, he started to whine again.
Could this be a PDE problem? Short trailer or similar?
Or just an effect that appeared after about 2 months of storage?

Regarding these long-life oil intervals, I am also quite skeptical.
The first oil change was after 35,000 km.
Isn't that a bit hairy?

Greetings


Markus883

@markus

If the PDE's were a real problem, this shaking would be constant. As I mentioned in my email, there have been instances where this specific shaking occurs, particularly when combined with the software of the MSG. Use the search function with 'idle vibration' and 'AXR'. You will find a lot of information there.
it is certainly very difficult to say anything about it. one would have to know the software version of the MSG and the part number of the installed PDEs...

Regarding the PDE's statement, it doesn't necessarily mean you'll get a rejection. Just wait and see. However, as I said, the larger ones also work and may even have a few more horsepower as a result.

When it comes to long life, there are divided opinions. We also had a thread on this topic a while ago. Please read it and form your opinion based on what is written.

Markus883 wrote:

@Ulf Do you mean by occasional failures/malfunctions, short-term disruptions or simply defective PDEs that need to be replaced, but this doesn't happen very often?

with Occasionally, I mean rare cases of "true" failures -> replacement.