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dieselmartin Profi-Schrauber


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19-07-2004, 10:47 Subject: Oil Drain Plug 1Z |
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Hi.
Yesterday, I removed the soundproofing shield from my 1Z to add transmission oil additive.
While doing that, I noticed that my engine is afraid of sunburn and therefore diligently oils itself.
Since I almost broke my fingers once on the G2 trying to get the oil pan back on (they designed it with 2-3 screws BEHIND the transmission bell housing!!!  ), I'm asking beforehand this time.
What type of screws does the G3 TDI (1Z model, 1996) use for the oil pan? They have Torx-like teeth, but there are 6 of them.
Are these Allen wrenches, or are they some kind of special, over-the-top thing again?
Is there anything I should be aware of when removing the oil pan?
Does anyone have any AFN oil pan dampers left over that they could spare?
Greetings.
m; Transparency, Teamwork
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19-07-2004, 11:22 Subject: Oil Drain Plug 1Z |
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I don't know which screws are used there.
However, Allen screws have 6 sides with straight surfaces between the corners.
A Torx screw also has 6 sides, but with angled surfaces in between.
Otherwise, there are only multi-tooth screws left. They look like Torx screws, but have 12 points!
They are, for example, used in drive shafts. The corresponding nuts are also quite expensive and only available from specialist retailers!
Make sure to tighten the oil pan with the specified torque; otherwise, it will likely leak almost immediately. VW Golf III TDI Avenue, MKB 1Z, EZ96
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Bertil Profi-Schrauber

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19-07-2004, 11:26 Subject: Oil Drain Plug 1Z |
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dieselmartin wrote: | What type of screws does the G3 TDI (1Z model 96) use for the oil pan? They have Torx-like notches, but there are 6 of them!
Are these Allen wrenches, or are they some kind of special, over-the-top thing again?
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All standard tools...
http://www.hazet.de/deutsch/katalog/suche_3.asp?F=850%2DE&H=30&U=150
The part is called an external Torx screw.
In machine manufacturing, the Torx (internal/external) screw head is now an indispensable component. Gruß Bertil
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19-07-2004, 12:04 Subject: Oil Drain Plug 1Z |
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Hello,
I read that the 'D2' type should be used for this application. Does anyone happen to know what 'D2' refers to?
Regards,
Tobias.
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19-07-2004, 13:01 Subject: Oil Drain Plug 1Z |
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@ Bertil
No, those are not Torx screws.
I was just thinking that Torx screws have 5 sides.
(Probably based on the new LMM screws...)
Perhaps the screws were just very dirty, so I didn't recognize them as Torx screws (stupid me).
Then it's not a problem.
I have this here  .
How much kNm should I put on that?  Transparency, Teamwork
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Bertil Profi-Schrauber

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19-07-2004, 14:02 Subject: Oil Drain Plug 1Z |
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dieselmartin wrote: | ....
I was just thinking that Torx screws have 5 sides.
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Torx has 6 points, while a LMM screw has (sometimes... not always) 5 points... so it's not a Torx.
Unfortunately, I don't have the tightening torque value memorized.
D2 is a sealant specified by Volkswagen.
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Older screws sometimes had 12 sides as well... I remember that. You can loosen them with a regular 12-point socket wrench. Gruß Bertil
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19-07-2004, 14:25 Subject: Oil Drain Plug 1Z |
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Is there anything similar to the VW "D2" available on the open market?
m; Transparency, Teamwork
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19-07-2004, 19:23 Subject: Oil Drain Plug 1Z |
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dieselmartin wrote: | Is there anything similar to the VW "D2" available on the open market???
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... in the worst-case scenario, you could try CURIL... (please don't judge).
"This stuff sticks/seals like the devil... only the person who has to remove the oil pan again will curse you."
Manufacturer: ELRING.
http://www.elringklinger.de/pages_g/ersatzteil/dichtmassen_sicherheit.htmlGruß Bertil
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19-07-2004, 20:22 Subject: Oil Drain Plug 1Z |
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@Bertil
Thanks! Perhaps you could also use a sealant from Reinz?
http://reinz.paradigma-software.com/produktkatalog/index.php?Lang=DEU
@Dieselmartin
I would estimate that the torque is around 20 Nm.
Regards,
Tobias.
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