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Post20-01-2011, 0:08    Subject: Wiring harness, front passenger door, door unlocking Quote

Hello everyone,

I'm having a problem with my Golf IV Variant, model year 2005, which has a remote central locking system and electric windows.
The passenger-side door is "safely" locked and won't open.

The wiring diagram (No. 74/3, from 2001) from "Freundlichen" refers to a brown T10p connector located in the coupling station on the right-hand side of the A-pillar. Where can I find these?
I removed the lower right panel in the passenger footwell and found only a black connector with 10 pins, where pins 1-8 are occupied. The wire colors don't match at all, and as far as I can tell, pins 1 and 5 are for the speaker in the door. The black plug is in a white holder, which could actually fit two more plugs, but it's empty!
Am I looking in the wrong place?
If I open this connector and lock it wirelessly, then the doors don't go into "safe" mode, but only into "locked" mode. ...Of course, only the front passenger door can still be opened from the inside icon_sad.gif. So, something about this connector is definitely related to the door...

Background: According to the wiring diagram, the locking motor can be directly connected to pins 1 and 2 of the T10p. To open the door, I would like to do that!

According to the error memory, one of the microswitches in the door lock is sending an implausible signal. If there's a way to set a kind of "override" using VCDS, so that the engine is still activated even with an implausible signal, I would appreciate a description of the procedure.

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Sure, here is the translation of the text from German to English:

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Post20-01-2011, 0:21    Subject: Re: Wiring harness, front passenger door, door unlocking mechanism Quote

Mephisto wrote:
Background: According to the wiring diagram, the locking motor can be directly connected to pins 1 and 2 of the T10p. To open the door, I would like to do that!
Right, this plug is located inside the door, specifically right at the lock.
Only cars are allowed to enter through the door.

- twice + and - for woofers and tweeters.
- Class 31 and Class 30 for the door control unit.
- CAN Low and High.

The socket in the footwell won't be useful to you in this case.
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Post20-01-2011, 11:22    Subject: Wiring harness, front passenger door, door unlocking Quote

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If there is a way to set a kind of "override" using VCDS, so that the engine is activated even with an implausible signal, I would appreciate a description of the procedure.

Disclaimer: Actuator test, the question is only in which control unit (ECU)...
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Post20-01-2011, 11:31    Subject: Wiring harness, front passenger door, door unlocking Quote

46 - Comfort system.
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Post20-01-2011, 18:55    Subject: Wiring harness, front passenger door, door unlocking Quote

Hi,

Great! Thanks for the answer. I'll try that and get back to you. It might take a while, as I only have the old self-built interface with the shareware version, and therefore I first have to beg a colleague icon_wink.gif.
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Post29-01-2011, 12:23    Subject: Wiring harness, front passenger door, door unlocking Quote

Hello everyone,

The actuators cannot be controlled via the actuator diagnosis function in the comfort control unit.
Now the question is: What happens if I tap into the CAN_H and CAN_L lines directly at the connector and address the car as a Golf V using a VAG tester? Could this work, or does anyone see a different/better way?

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Sure, here is the translation of the text from German to English:

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