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25-11-2012, 18:57 Subject: Replace fuel filter, engine code CAAB |
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Steffen G wrote: | Well, then it will continue next weekend, with changing the fuel filter.
Can someone provide some input on this?
Does it self-prime, or is there a pre-charge pump in the tank that needs to be addressed? |
Steffen G wrote: | It's a 2.0 TDI CR, CAAB, from 2009, and as suspected, the diagnostic data blocks cannot be accessed.
Despite the update to the latest version. |
The engine control unit only provides the extended measurement data blocks.
By the way, this is the case with most current models, so you might want to get used to it.
Best regards, Rainer.
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25-11-2012, 19:47 Subject: Replace fuel filter, engine code CAAB |
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dieselschrauber wrote: | Quote: | It's a 2.0 TDI CR, CAAB, from 2009, and as suspected, the diagnostic data blocks cannot be accessed.
Despite the update to the latest version. |
The engine control unit only provides the extended measurement data blocks.
By the way, this is the case with most current models, so you might want to get used to it.
Best regards, Rainer |
Hi!
Well, there are quite a few of those.
I have to say, it takes quite a while to get through the entire list.
That's taking a while... it's intense.
Grüße, Steffen!
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25-11-2012, 20:11 Subject: Replace fuel filter, engine code CAAB |
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You can access a selection list through the menu in the selection window (list), and you can also search for text within the list. Click the icon in the selection window, and you'll see it.
Best regards, Rainer.
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Steffen G Profi-Schrauber

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28-11-2012, 20:17 Subject: Replace fuel filter, engine code CAAB |
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Hi!
Does anyone happen to know if I'm changing the fuel filter this weekend?
Does it need to be vented somehow?
Activate the priming pump, fill the filter, or use a hand pump, suction pump, or something similar?
Grüße, Steffen!
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29-11-2012, 8:36 Subject: Replace fuel filter, engine code CAAB |
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dieselschrauber wrote: | Quote: | It's a 2.0 TDI CR, CAAB, from 2009, and as suspected, the diagnostic data blocks cannot be accessed.
Despite the update to the latest version. |
The engine control unit only provides the extended measurement data blocks.
It's actually like that with most current models, so you might want to get used to it. | I took a quick look at the BUK documentation and, at least, I still found the order of the "good old" MWB (Multi-Window Bus).
Is this order still maintained in the current models, at least? So that, for example, if there is a lack of performance, the information from the old MWB8 can be found in lines 29 to 32 of the new list?
Gruß Ulf
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29-11-2012, 9:09 Subject: Replace fuel filter, engine code CAAB |
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Steffen G wrote: | | ... whether it needs to be vented somehow? |
Officially, it's like this:
Quote: | Caution!
It is necessary to bleed the fuel system even after replacing the common-rail high-pressure pump and all components located in the low-pressure fuel system upstream of the common-rail high-pressure pump.
Okay, I understand. Please provide the German text you want me to translate. Fuel filters, fuel lines, etc.
When replacing components located in front of the common-rail high-pressure pump, it is necessary to activate the electric fuel pump for a minimum of 60 seconds.
When replacing the common-rail high-pressure pump, the electric fuel pump should be activated for approximately 180 seconds.
(Execute the function multiple times).
Fuel system: Bleeding (diesel engine).
With the vehicle diagnostic system, measurement and information system - VAS 5051B - or the vehicle diagnostic and service information system - VAS 5052 A -.
To ensure immediate engine start after replacing the fuel filter, the fuel system must be bled using the vehicle diagnostic system, measurement and information system - VAS 5051B - or the vehicle diagnostic and service information system - VAS 5052 A.
- Connect the vehicle diagnostic system, measurement and information system - VAS 5051B - or the vehicle diagnostic and service information system - VAS 5052 A - while the ignition is switched off? Chapter.
- Turn on the ignition.
- On the display, press the "Guided Functions" button.
- Perform the vehicle identification.
- Now, select the following functions one after another:
"Self-diagnosing systems"
"Diesel direct injection and preheating system."
* "Functions"
"Bleed the fuel system."
- Follow the instructions displayed on the vehicle diagnostic system, measurement and information system - VAS 5051B - or. Vehicle diagnostic and service information system - VAS 5052 A -.
- After bleeding the fuel system, exit the "Guided Functions" using the Jump button.
- Tap the "End" function on the display.
- In the "Exit" menu, select the "Exit" function.
- Turn off the ignition and disconnect the diagnostic connector from the vehicle.
The fuel system bleeding is complete. |
Bye.
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29-11-2012, 13:19 Subject: Replace fuel filter, engine code CAAB |
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Hello,
The electric fuel pump can be activated using the selective actuator test.
Alternatively, for many TDIs, this setting can be adjusted in the engine control unit via the basic settings (channel 35 or a similar function in the drop-down list).
See also:
Okay, I'm ready. Please provide the German text you want me to translate.
Best regards, Rainer.
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29-11-2012, 14:52 Subject: Replace fuel filter, engine code CAAB |
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Quote: | | The electric fuel pump can be activated via the selective actuator test. |
Or simply short-circuit  .
Okay, I'm ready. Please provide the German text you want me to translate.
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29-11-2012, 16:56 Subject: Replace fuel filter, engine code CAAB |
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Great, thank you very much!
Grüße, Steffen!
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29-11-2012, 20:46 Subject: Replace fuel filter, engine code CAAB |
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Quick question: I just installed a CAYB (presumably a fuel filter bypass adapter) on my Skoda Praktik. It only has two connections on the diesel filter! Where does the diesel go to vent now? So far, I've only encountered diesel filters with four connections in VAG vehicles.
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29-11-2012, 22:11 Subject: Replace fuel filter, engine code CAAB |
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I think it goes to where the excess fuel also goes -- through the return line, back towards the tank. 
LG, Onkel BM
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30-11-2012, 0:16 Subject: Replace fuel filter, engine code CAAB |
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Quote: | | It only has two connections on the diesel filter! |
Okay, exactly like the Golf 2 was until the mid-80s - before the "Knackfrosch" (frog-eyed) version came out.
The supply line goes in and out, and the return line goes directly to the tank.
It actually ventilates better than the others, but it doesn't provide as much warmth.
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30-11-2012, 0:25 Subject: Replace fuel filter, engine code CAAB |
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This explains the diesel temperature of 23°C with a half-full tank... Conversely, I hope that the tank won't melt in the summer when the fuel level is getting low. 
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14-01-2014, 15:51 Subject: Replace fuel filter, engine code CAAB |
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dieselschrauber wrote: | Hello,
The electric fuel pump can be activated using the selective actuator test.
Best regards, Rainer |
I've been searching everywhere for this relay for the Polo 9N3, which is needed for actuator diagnostics, but I can't find it!
I guess I'll have to look in the engine control unit, right?
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14-01-2014, 17:36 Subject: Replace fuel filter, engine code CAAB |
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Quote: | I've been searching in vain for this relay for the Polo 9N3, which is needed for actuator diagnosis!
I guess I'll have to look in the engine control unit, right? |
Yes, but only if this feature is actually available for your vehicle.
A few data points and a quick error scan might be helpful. To the best of my knowledge, a CAAB is installed in the VW Bus T5.
You need to search for it in VCDS under "Actuator Diagnosis."
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25-01-2014, 21:28 Subject: Replace fuel filter, engine code CAAB |
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Good evening, everyone!
I'm still unable to find the function to activate the pre-charge pump, this time on a T5, BPC model.
After replacing the fuel filter, the fuel system needs to be bled. As described above, according to VW:
Quote: | To ensure immediate engine starting after a fuel filter change, the fuel system must be bled using the vehicle diagnostic system, the measurement and information system -VAS 5051B-, or the vehicle diagnostic and service information system -VAS 5052 A-.
- Connect the vehicle diagnostic system, measurement and information system - VAS 5051B - or... Vehicle diagnostic and service information system - VAS 5052 A - connect with the ignition off → Chapter.
- Turn on the ignition.
- Press the "Guided Functions" button on the display.
- Then, proceed with vehicle identification.
- Now, select the following functions one after another:
"Self-diagnosing systems"
"Diesel direct injection and preheating system."
"Functions"
"Bleed the fuel system."
- Follow the instructions displayed on the vehicle diagnostic system, measurement and information system - VAS 5051B, or. Vehicle diagnostic and service information system - VAS 5052 A -.
- After bleeding the fuel system, exit the "Guided Functions" using the "Skip" button.
- Tap the "End" function on the display.
- In the "Exit" menu, select the "Exit" function.
- Turn off the ignition and disconnect the diagnostic connector from the vehicle.
The fuel system has been bled.
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I've already searched in the MSG. Unfortunately, this doesn't offer a selection for a specific control unit, and even when browsing through the different control units, the pre-charge pump is not included.
Does anyone have a suggestion?
Here's another recent error scan:
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Vehicle type: 7H (7H - Bus)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 17 18 19 37 45 46 56 77
Vehicle Identification Number: WV2ZZZ7HZ8Hxxxxxx Mileage: 131,670 km
"Der schnelle braune Fuchs springt über den faulen Hund."
Address 01: Engine Control Module
Label file: RKS\070-906-016-BPC.clb
Part number SW: 070 906 016 DR Hardware number: 070 906 016 DR
Part: R5 2.5L EDC G000AG 1584
Revision: --H06--- Serial Number: VWZ7Z0G6131852
Encoding: 0001075
Operating number: WSC 30696 264 83473
VCID: 63C39824A1345106E91-5178
No error codes found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0
"Der schnelle braune Fuchs springt über den faulen Hund."
Address 02: Transmission Label file: RKS\09G-927-750.lbl
Part number SW: 09K 927 750 L, Hardware number: 09K 927 750 L.
Part: AQ 250 6F 1045
Revision: 00H67000 Serial number:
Encoding: 0000072
Operating number: WSC 02756 790 00000
VCID: 3E7509506A165CEEA6F-515A
No error codes found.
"Der schnelle braune Fuchs springt über den faulen Hund."
Address 03: Brake Electronics Label file: RKS\7H0-907-37x-ESP.lbl
Part number SW: 7H0 907 379 R, HW: 7H0 907 379 R.
Component: ESP MK25E1 0104
Revision: 00H31001
Encoding: 0000555
Operating number: WSC 02756 790 00000
VCID: 44817BB804FA363EF0B-513C
No error codes found.
"Der schnelle braune Fuchs springt über den faulen Hund."
Address 08: Climate Control/Heating Module. Label file: RKS\7Hx-907-040.lbl
Part number: 7H5 907 040 D.
Component: CLIMAtronic T5 4221
Encoding: 0011040
Operating number: WSC 02757 790 00000
VCID: 2C5133188C6ADE7E18B-515A
Subsystem 1 - Part number: 7H5 907 049 D
Part: Display_2_ClimaT5 X 0307
Sure, here is the translation of the text from German to English:
"1 error found:"
01592 - Sensor for air duct (G238)).
010 - Short circuit/overload after positive terminal.
"Der schnelle braune Fuchs springt über den faulen Hund."
Address 09: Central Electronics
Label file: RKS\7H0-937-049.lbl
Part number: 7H0 937 049 AE.
Component: BORDNETZ SGVER 1.0 2101
Encoding: 0000359
Operating number: WSC 02756 790 00000
VCID: 75E7D67C1FA0DFB6B75-513C
No error codes found.
"Der schnelle braune Fuchs springt über den faulen Hund."
Address 15: Airbag
Label file: RKS\6Q0-909-605-VW5.lbl
Part number: 1C0 909 605 F
Part number: 11 AIRBAG VW61 0R 0004.
Encoding: 12593
Operating number: WSC 02756
VCID: 275BCC34C58CFD26F59-515A
No error codes found.
"Der schnelle braune Fuchs springt über den faulen Hund."
Address 17: Terminal block module
Label file: RKS\7Hx-920-xxx-17.lbl
Part number: 7H5 920 872 L.
Component: COMBINATION INSTRUMENT + SPEEDOMETER VDO V02
Encoding: 05113
Operating number: WSC 71692
VCID: 3C7103582C0A4EFE88B-513C
WV2ZZZ7HZ8H109783 VWZ7Z0G6131852
No error codes found.
"Der schnelle braune Fuchs springt über den faulen Hund."
Address 18: Auxiliary heater
Label file: RKS\7H0-819-008.lbl
Part number: 7H0 815 071 F.
Component: Auxiliary heater 0209.
Operating Number: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 2B5330048964D946111-515A
Sure, here is the translation of the text from German to English:
"1 error found:"
00664 - Fuel level indicator.
002 - Lower limit exceeded - Intermittent.
"Der schnelle braune Fuchs springt über den faulen Hund."
Address 19: Diagnostic interface
Label file: RKS\6N0-909-901-19.lbl
Part number: 6N0 909 901.
Component: Gateway K<->CAN 0001
Encoding: 00006
Operating number: WSC 02756
VCID: F0E96768B0C27A9EE43-513C
No error codes found.
"Der schnelle braune Fuchs springt über den faulen Hund."
Address 37: Navigation
Label file: RKS\7L6-919-887-DVD.lbl
Part number: 7H0 919 887 B
Component: Navigation 0030
Encoding: 0000101
Operating number: WSC 02756 790 00000
VCID: 3B730044790449C6811-513C
No error codes found.
"Der schnelle braune Fuchs springt über den faulen Hund."
Address 45: Interior monitoring. Label file: RKS\7Hx-951-171.lbl
Part number: 7H5 951 171 C.
Component: Interior monitoring system. 2917.
Encoding: 0000012
Operating number: WSC 02757 790 00000
VCID: 2F6B2414BD7CA5663D9-5196
Subsystem 1 - Part number: 7H5 951 178.
Component: Interior monitoring system 1607.
No error codes found.
"Der schnelle braune Fuchs springt über den faulen Hund."
Address 46: Comfort System
Label file: RKS\7H0-959-433.lbl
Part number: 7H0 959 433 B
Component: C11 Comfort Device 0004
Encoding: 00031
Operating number: WSC 02756
VCID: 326D2D60FE4E888E527-4B18
No error codes found.
"Der schnelle braune Fuchs springt über den faulen Hund."
Address 56: Radio Label file: RKS\7L6-035-186-DVD.lbl
Part number: 7L6 035 186 D.
Component: Radio 0030
Encoding: 0016410
Operating number: WSC 02756 790 00000
VCID: 34612B78545A86BE40B-513C
No error codes found.
"Der schnelle braune Fuchs springt über den faulen Hund."
Address 77: Phone (J738)) Label file: None.
Part number SW: 7H0 035 730 HW: 7H0 035 730
Component: Telephone 005 1411
Revision: 00005000 Serial number: 20330620005755
Encoding: 000211
Operating number: WSC 02756 790 00000
VCID: E1CF122CFB28C3167BD-513C
No error codes found.
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Best regards and have a pleasant evening.
Volker.
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