Is the 96 kW PD engine still experiencing issues in the MJ 2003 model?

Hello everyone,

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There are many experiences available online regarding the 96 kW engine in the Ibiza.

I analyzed some listings and found that in 20 postings, at least 6 mentioned something about the infamous PD vibrations. 4 of those vehicles were first registered in 2003, and the last one in June.

D.h. a defect rate of 30% is not necessarily representative, but it certainly makes me lean towards a negative assessment of the 96 kW PD engine in my personal planning for the next car.

The problem seems to still not be properly solved. . . Is there at least a reliable method for http://www.ibiza-forum.de/forum/thread.php?threadid=5820&sid=making corrections now?

Hi Ulf!

Okay, generally speaking, I can only tell you about the A4/8E model. In that case, the problem was clearly related to the injectors, as the idle control system had reached its limit at approximately +- 2.8mg/H per cylinder. LMM and similar approaches never achieved success.
The funny thing was that this wasn't due to a problem with the engine's mechanics (like insufficient compression, etc.), but rather that a different set of injectors proved successful. Therefore, Audi is replacing the injector sets. As far as I know, the new nozzle set has been factory-installed since model year 2003.

My AWX is running really well so far, but it's only got just under 12,000 km on it. Definitely worth recommending.

Hi there.

My AWX, manufactured in 01/2001, also didn't/hasn't had any problems!

My ASZ (Automatic Speed Adjustment) from 07/2002 has also been working without any jerking so far. Good luck!

Enjoy your meal.

My 1996 model, manufactured in August 2001, also doesn't exhibit any tendency to jerk. Everything is fine.
It runs like clockwork.
Best regards,
Mirco.

ASZ 06/2003 (Skoda) - My colleague's car has no problems, even though it's used as a 'company car for external sales representatives.'

CU Gremlin.

How is 'ruckling' actually defined? How do you actually define 'cold calling'?

Best regards, WarLord.

WarLord wrote:

How is "shaking" or "jerking" actually defined? How do you actually define "cold calling"?

Hi,

For me, "ruckeln" describes an uneven engine running that causes longitudinal vibrations in the vehicle, and the engine noise comes in a way that is (more or less) "jerky" to match.

When idling, it feels like a shaking engine to me, where the shaking frequency is noticeably slower than the ignition sequence.

Sure, here's the translation:

"Addendum:"
"For me, 'cold start' means: full throttle and high RPMs (above 2500 rpm), as long as the temperature gauge hasn't reached the normal warm range yet.

To be understood as a gradual transition: For example, immediately after a cold start in freezing temperatures, I gently press the accelerator and do not exceed 1500 rpm.

Hmm, shaky engine: Are you talking about an engine with a lot of vibrations at idle, and almost an unpleasant noise? Something like misfire issues (not igniting, etc.)?

Best regards, WarLord.

I sold my 2001 Audi A2 after 100,000 km, having had 3 fuel injectors fail.
(Audi A3) (I had to replace one at 90,000 kilometers/miles).
A friend has a 96 kW PD Audi A4 with 60,000 km and is also experiencing the same problem. He received a completely new engine under warranty (because he is a major customer).

Currently, I'm driving a V6 TDI Superb - it's a completely different experience, just awesome... I'll never go back to PD engines; I'd rather switch to a different car brand.

(no Audi, VW, Seat, or Skoda) if it's only pump-injector technology left!

Hi,
We received a Passat with 96 kW from the company this spring, and we haven't had any problems with it.

In the spring - that's when it will have a maximum of 30 or 40 thousand [units/sales] - we need to wait and see what happens.

emil wrote:

I sold my 2001 Audi A2 after 100,000 km, having had 3 fuel injectors fail. (Audi A3) (I had to replace one at 90,000 kilometers/miles). A friend has a 96 kW PD Audi A4 with 60,000 km and is also experiencing the same problem - he received a completely new engine under warranty (because he is a major customer)

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Hi Emil,

I'd be interested to hear about the symptoms you experienced while driving with your faulty injectors, and what measurements the workshop used to diagnose the problem.

Can you say something more about that?

At some point, the ESP warning light started illuminating during driving – sometimes under full load, sometimes at idle, and sometimes not at all for days.

'With each visit to the workshop, an error code was cleared - (I don't remember the code anymore, I sold the car and threw everything away).'

But no one in the workshop had really figured out what the problem was...
My constant inquiries were also useless ('it's been deleted now...').

After the warranty period of half a year had expired, I took the car to an independent workshop (where my cousin, who is a master mechanic, happens to work).
The error code was read again, and it took approximately two weeks to locate the fault based on the error number (a pump element on the third cylinder).
(Audi has not released any data to the independent workshop.)
After installing the new pump element, I was told that it's possible that the other elements might also fail soon.

'No ESP light for 4 weeks - yay! My car is fixed...'
5 or 6 weeks - the ESP light is on again - off to the repair shop.
Error codes read: three 16xxx and 17xxx numbers.

----> the other three injector elements (3 * 800 euros - no!!!!)

I contacted Audi to inquire about the possibility of receiving a goodwill gesture, but my request was DENIED.

Ordered a Skoda Superb V6 without a pump-injector system - traded in an Audi, resulting in a loss of approximately 4000 euros.
and the repairs to the turbocharger's pump nozzle element (the Audi workshop only replaced the lines leading to the turbo - less than 500 km later, the turbo exploded - I then had it replaced at an independent workshop to ensure it was done properly ), and the timing belt - a total of 2500 euros.

I believe that Audi conducts test drives with customers, and Skoda always receives the older engines from VW and Audi. That's why everything in Skoda is well-established and mature, which is actually how it should be at Audi.

'With Skoda, I now have a 4-year warranty, so hopefully something like this will never happen again.'


Oh, and one more thing - each ring costs 1000 euros - looooooooooooool - at least...

Oh yes, the symptoms...

The car couldn't accelerate from 70 km/h to 100 km/h in 6th gear.

You had to shift down to the fourth gear to prevent it from jerking.

Sometimes he drove 210 km/h, sometimes 235 km/h - always 10 km/h at full throttle - so the performance was inconsistent.

'No power at all in the lower RPM range - it's flooded frequently.'

I think it also ran in emergency mode more often (towards the end).

'It was sometimes even overtaken on the highway by a 90 horsepower TDI.'

and the 3 mg/h target was not reached - the initial values were +0.8.

and later at -0.4 to -1.

and of course, the error memory - unfortunately, as I said, I discarded all the values, and I'm just recalling this from memory - it was already happening around Christmas, so almost 10 months ago.