Experiences with ATE Powerdisk brake discs?

Does anyone have experience with ATE Powerdisc brake discs?
(As a replacement for the series, and also available in 280mm.)

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Hello,
Since I was also interested in it, I switched to Power Disc during the last complete system change in June of this year.

My experiences regarding this:
- Under normal braking conditions, the braking performance is approximately the same as the original.
- The brakes warm up quickly, and when applied with force, the braking performance increases significantly.
- The fading occurs slightly earlier, but it is not as pronounced as in the original.
- Braking from high speeds is louder than with the original equipment (it takes some getting used to, and can be annoying at times).
- I couldn't detect any difference in wet operation.
- After 4 months, I can't say anything negative about the wear and tear.

I use brake rotors with a diameter of 288mm, along with the corresponding ATE brake pads.
The additional airflow duct from the spoiler to the brake system is not a standard feature on my GTI. This will be updated soon, with the hope of improved fading performance.


Regards,

Andy.

I haven't used ATE brakes yet, but I did use Ferodo DS2000 brake pads on original discs in a Golf 2. I was very satisfied; the brakes had significantly less fading, especially on the highway or on winding country roads, compared to the original pads. However, the pads take a bit longer to warm up, but that didn't bother me. The consistent braking force even with warm brakes more than compensated for it.
I intended to use these in conjunction with ATE Powerdiscs, but I no longer had the opportunity to do so because I sold the car. This combination was recommended to me back then.
Personally, I don't think that using Powerdisks with original brake pads is a good combination; if you're going to use one, you should adjust the other accordingly. The wear on the Ferodo pads was also good for me, so not excessively high compared to the original pads.

Hi, I've had these brake discs installed on my A3 for 57,000 km. No problems so far. Initially, they offered better wet braking performance. However, over time, the circumferential groove becomes clogged, and the effect diminishes. Slotted discs would be better in that case. However, I don't know of any reputable manufacturers that offer them. Please use the matching ATE brake pads, as the VW pads don't work as well with these discs. You could also consider installing a (used) FN III brake system. That would have slightly larger discs, larger pads, and more friction surface, and most importantly, the discs would be thicker, offering more heat capacity. Below is a list of brake systems for the VW A-platform (excluding sporty versions like S3 / R32, etc.). "Any additions or suggestions for improvement? Please share them."
Type: FS III, FN III.
Pavement thickness (new): 14mm, 14mm.
Wear limit with backplate: 7mm / 7mm.
Disc diameter: 256/288mm, 288mm.
Disk thickness (new): 22mm, 25mm.
Disc wear limit: 19mm, 22mm.

Best regards,

There are well-known manufacturers of etched and/or perforated glass. The question is whether one is willing to pay the price for it .

And what would those be?

Hmm, first of all, here's something:
The FS III actually has a 280 mm size, not 256 mm!
I actually threw those away and replaced them with FN III.
The FN III, as correctly written, has a caliber of 288mm.

I still have the original discs and pads on my car.

I was advised by two different tuners, independently of each other, not to use the V6 braking system with a 312mm disc diameter.
Either opt for the large Brembo system with 320mm discs for extreme applications.
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or (and significantly cheaper) you can opt for the slotted Brembo brake discs with matching pads.
I just received a quote for 2 brake discs and 4 brake pads for the front axle: 369 euros, all-inclusive.

Okay, here's the translation:

Now, my questions:
Are Brembo products really that good, perhaps even better than ATE Powerdiscs, or is it just the brand name that's good?

If so, where could I find Brembos at an even lower price?

I already have a very good supplier for ATE products, but unfortunately, they don't quite measure up to Brembo.

Best regards,
Daniel.

Sandtler offers perforated/slotted discs. Brembo also believes that Zimmermann offers at least slotted and drilled rotors.

The FN III version with a 256mm disc diameter is used in the lower-powered models. These models are not available in Germany. Furthermore, the braking system is not only used in the A3, but also in other vehicles based on the A platform.

The FN-III is exclusively available in 288mm.

The FS-III has either a 256mm or a 280mm stroke. The 256mm versions are used in less powerful models (1.4, 1.6, etc.). In Europe... In some foreign countries, these smaller FS-III models are still sometimes equipped with drums at the rear, but in Germany, the Golf 4 always has disc brakes all around.

Take a look here:

http://www.sks-muelheim.de/bremsen.htm

I mean FSIII.

Take a look at this:


Great!
That's exactly what I was looking for!

I would also have been interested in the values obtained with other brake pads and the slotted Zimmermann rotors.

Okay, so what windshields should I buy for my FN-III?http://www.sks-muelheim.de/bremsen.htm{MARKER}

Hello,

I got the slotted brake discs from Zimmermann for my Passat (1.9 TDI, Syncro, 1998). I'm thrilled with them. I haven't driven in the winter yet, but even when it's raining, I notice a very significant improvement. The downside (if you can even notice it) is that the discs, due to the holes, are slightly louder than the original ones when braking hard. But that's not noticeable in everyday use. The advantage over the grooved discs is that the holes are less likely to get clogged. I bought the brake discs from D&W. They cost only a little more than those did at VAG.

Regards,
Markus.

Hello,

I also have the Zimmermann slotted brake discs with Ferodo pads installed in my Golf AFN (with 256mm discs).

The braking performance is at least as good, but especially at higher speeds, it is clearly better. I didn't notice anything negative during the winter either.

In addition, the brake discs and pads on my car have been in use for between 30,000 and 40,000 kilometers, and show virtually no wear (the disc thickness is approximately 0.5mm on each side). This is despite quite a spirited driving style. So, the original ones lasted a maximum of 80,000 km for me!

I can also confirm that the holes do not get clogged with dirt or brake dust.

Price-wise, there isn't a significant difference compared to the original equipment. 'Well, I'm not putting anything else in [it/them] anymore.'


QUESTION: Has anyone had any experience with the slotted or slotted and drilled brake discs that SANDTLER offers? Actually, I believe there are also some for the back seats, if I'm informed correctly!

Hello.

Hello,

I lowered the brake temperature of two sets of ATE Power Discs, but they were installed on a Scirocco with 236mm discs.

The wear on the pads was slightly higher, while the wear on the disc was lower.
So, with standard rotors, I used two pads per rotor, with the PowerDisc rotors I used three pads per rotor, and overall, I got more kilometers out of them (though I'm not sure if that was due to the original ATE pads).

They respond faster when it's wet.
I can confirm that there is some fading, but it was much less pronounced before, and it never reached the strength seen in normal discs.

Best regards,