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dieselmartin Profi-Schrauber


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19-03-2004, 1:01 Subject: 003 and 008 Log from ASV inside |
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Hi
I just had a Seat Ibiza 6L ASV in my hands.
The part naturally had to be immediately re-populated with data
Here are 2 logs, in case anyone is interested.
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http://www.luxus-wg.de/~martin/auto_bilder/2004_03_18_laurent.zipTransparency, Teamwork
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19-03-2004, 9:45 Subject: 003 and 008 Log from ASV inside |
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Hi,
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I just had a Seat Ibiza 6L ASV in my hands.
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I don't believe so, because such things don't actually exist
The ASV (81 KW) is only fitted in the 6K engine (also known as GP01) from 1999 onwards, while the 6L is the subsequent model built from 2002 onwards, and exclusively uses PD-TDI engines, namely the ATD (74 KW) and ASZ (96KW), as well as the 1.4 TDI.
So, your log is either from the 6K / ASV or 6L / ASZ...
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19-03-2004, 10:28 Subject: 003 and 008 Log from ASV inside |
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Oops, sorry, I reversed the names of the {CAR}.
It was a 110 PS VP - so ASV.
Thank you.
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I'm not very familiar with Spanish
Definitely, that thing worked like a charm.
On my DZR home track (unfortunately slightly uphill) with 3 people, using a 7.6 and a 6.6.
The logs are without box.
Also, it was also nice to see:
- LL dosage without box 4.4 mg/H - with box 1.2 mg/H
- Group 000 basic settings have NOT changed the noise - so the pump is already set to run late?
*ROAR I want a VTG too* Transparency, Teamwork
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19-03-2004, 12:24 Subject: 003 and 008 Log from ASV inside |
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Also, it was also nice to see:
- LL dosage without box 4.4 mg/H - with box 1.2 mg/H
- Group 000 basic settings have NOT changed the noise - so the pump is already set to run late?
regarding the inverted LL fuel injection volume, I'm more inclined to think it's a completely stupid box...
*ROAR I want a VTG too*
Hey, he sounds so good
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19-03-2004, 16:56 Subject: 003 and 008 Log from ASV inside |
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Hi,
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It was a 110 PS VP - so ASV.
I'm not very familiar with Spanish.
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But I... that's exactly the same car as mine.
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Definitely, that thing worked like a charm.
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Can I confirm.
During my measurements in the summer of 2002 (I need to repeat them to see any changes), I achieved an average DRZ time of around 6.25, measured with VAGCOM and interpolation, and without any tuning.
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19-03-2004, 17:21 Subject: 003 and 008 Log from ASV inside |
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Hey, he sounds so good
I love this howling. *g*
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19-03-2004, 20:42 Subject: 003 and 008 Log from ASV inside |
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hi,
can someone quickly explain group 8? what exactly do I see there? is it the injection amount? but why is it listed three times?
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19-03-2004, 20:46 Subject: 003 and 008 Log from ASV inside |
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Dipl.-Ing. (FH) Rainer Kaufmann - dieselschrauber VCDS Shop |
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19-03-2004, 21:11 Subject: 003 and 008 Log from ASV inside |
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That's all very nice, but what does that actually mean for me?
driver request: what I tell the ECU regarding the accelerator pedal position
Torque Limiting???
Smoke Reduction???
and how much does he actually inject? 1, 2, or 3? or the subtraction from the three?
in the log, Dieselmartin also had to extract the minimum value and perform a subtraction...why was this done?
Unfortunately, this is not included in the sales data...
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19-03-2004, 21:19 Subject: 003 and 008 Log from ASV inside |
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Hi,
These are the values from the 3 measurement fields, and the minimum value is always injected.
That's exactly the trick of this control system.
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20-03-2004, 10:44 Subject: 003 and 008 Log from ASV inside |
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do you mean the russian minimum, or the one that dieselmartin added as the last column?
because the minimum in idle, '0' would be the desired value '0', so nothing would happen. This would cause it to turn off.
but the terms themselves are still not clear to me.
torque limitation? what is that? or flow limitation? (maybe: flow limitation: is that the maximum amount that can be injected before it clogs? - what happens to the value if 10 cent tuning is applied? or does the STG (presumably a device) not recognize 10 cent tuning at all?)
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dieselmartin Profi-Schrauber


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20-03-2004, 12:43 Subject: 003 and 008 Log from ASV inside |
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So
the 3 columns are the
- Driver's request (Even when the gas pedal is released and the vehicle is stationary or idling, the minimum amount is displayed here)
- Gear shift limitation to prevent you from accidentally disengaging the gear.
- Russian borders (Nonsense, I'm going ahead
At least 3 values must be entered.
The subtraction is used to find out when the RUSSGRENZE was at its minimum.
Because this means the engine was "starving," usually due to a faulty mass airflow sensor (MAF).
If this happens only a few (rare) times, it shouldn't be a big deal.
However, if the E-quantities are constantly or in typical conditions (ALWAYS at full throttle) limited by the Russ, something goes wrong.
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have I already said that I want a VTG
Monday, I got my accident-damaged bike back! Transparency, Teamwork
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