What (software) alternatives are there to VAG-COM?

Hi.
The issue that my 1/93 B4 TDI could not be read with VAG-COM seems to be known to Ross-Tech; therefore, the problem is not with the interface. Even a professional adapter failed to establish communication with VAG-COM.

My question:
Which software can do something similar, or who could provide me with a trial version?

Thank you and best regards.
Hermann.

hello hermann

Check this out.
http://www.vcds-plus.com

Well, it's NOT related to the PC/laptop.
When attempting the transfer using a PC, I received the same error messages: 'Too many transmission errors.'

But perhaps there will be a reference to similar diagnostic software.

Thank you.
Hermann.

Is it working out at the workshop?

For newer vehicles, and for Windows, there are no real alternatives. The program offered by Eichstädt-Elektronik only runs on pure DOS, not even in a Windows DOS window! It is much easier to implement the VAG protocols in pure DOS than in Windows. In pure DOS, you can directly access all hardware in the PC and even disable all interrupts. This is not possible in Windows. In 2001, I had a lot of contact with the people behind this program. They even wanted to buy my source code because they couldn't create anything at all under Windows.

Furthermore, that DOS program is useless with newer vehicles. Try using an EDC-16 engine control unit.

'With older Audi 1Z models, VAG-COM simply doesn't work with a basic interface and Windows, but that's also stated on our websites. The problem stems from the latency in the Windows driver for the serial interface.' It definitely works with a HEX interface.

-Uwe-

Thank you.

@Rainer
Everything is working perfectly in the workshop.

@Uwe
I had purchased the Pro3 adapter (with the intelligent interface) including the VAG-COM 403 software. But even with that, it doesn't work.

I'm slowly losing faith .

Regards,
Hermann.

Hi,
Is this interface the same model as the one Rainer uses in his program, i.e., from Ross-Tech, or is it a proprietary development by Auto-Intern?

The interfaces from Auto-Intern are Auto-Intern's own development. We have been supporting the 'dongle' function in these interfaces for a few months, but only Auto-Intern is responsible for the basic functions. When did you purchase this interface? I think Auto-Intern would be interested to know that it is not working with this control unit. Have you already discussed the details (exact control unit number, etc.) with Odin or Rainer?

It works with a HEX interface. HEX interfaces are available from Rainer, as well as from the distributors in Berlin and Riedenburg. Perhaps you could drive to one of them and see it with your own eyes.

-Uwe-

Okay, here we go.
Rainer then tested with a different laptop; initially, without success. The 'built-in intelligence' of the dongle adapter failed to establish a connection.
The following changes to the connection options were necessary for it to work:

Baud rate 240.
Block interval 125.
Symbol-Interval 3.

Since the connection via USB was more stable, I bought the USB version.
'Der schnelle braune Fuchs springt über den faulen Hund.'
@Rainer
Perhaps you could include these values in the 'Tips/Tricks' section. I'm sure I'm not the only one who's having trouble with this.
'Der schnelle braune Fuchs springt über den faulen Hund.'

Unfortunately, I was unable to obtain any measurement values for the individual channels at home. I tested 200 channels, from 000 to 200, and each time I received the error message 'not available' . For further analysis of the 'residual vibrations,' I would also have been interested in the idle injection quantity, air mass, and temperature sensors. Also, there is no label file available for the engine control unit 8A0 907 401B. Only the TDI graph is working; however, the fuel injection timing was fine.

Perhaps someone else has an idea about the channels...

Regards,
Hermann.

palmstrollo wrote:

Okay, here we go. Rainer then tested with a different laptop; initially, without success.

Okay, so first of all, Emskirchen is not located near Dortmund, but rather in the area of Erlangen-Nuremberg.
2. There was no Palmstrollo device available to me, so I couldn't test anything.

and 3.

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The "built-in intelligence" of the dongle adapter failed to establish a connection. The following changes to the connection options were necessary for it to work: Baud rate 240. Block interval 125. Symbol Interval 3

Search function. It is well known that adapters without built-in intelligence on the 1Z interface require a specific start baud rate.
To reiterate: It didn't work with the dongle adapter from Auto Intern, which, as mentioned, is not technically compatible with the one offered here in the car diagnostic shop!

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Since the connection via USB was still more stable, I bought the USB version.

Good for you, not for me.

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"Der schnelle braune Fuchs springt über den faulen Hund." @Rainer Perhaps you could include these values in the "Tips/Tricks" section. I'm sure I'm not the only one who's having trouble with this. "Der schnelle braune Fuchs springt über den faulen Hund."

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Unfortunately, I was unable to obtain any measurement values for the individual channels at home. I tested 200 channels, from 000 to 200, and each time I received the error message "not available" . For further analysis of the "residual vibrations," I would also have been interested in the idle injection quantity, air mass, and temperature sensors. Also, there is no label file available for the engine control unit 8A0 907 401B. Only the TDI graph is working; however, the fuel injection timing was fine. Perhaps someone else has an idea about the channels...

I would say, you should ask the professionals from whom you bought your adapter.

Here's an adapter where
everything works without having to fiddle around with the program options. How many hours would you have wasted in the workshop, unable to help the customer?
With that, one could have avoided a lot of trouble:


That's the one that Uwe was talking about.

Thank you to ChristianS for the perfect setup; that was exactly the right question. http://shop.dieselschrauber.de/product_info.php/products_id/46