Polo 1.4l 59kW TDI DPF Blue Motion - Ist das was? | Posts 16+

10-10-2006, 8:12 Subject:

bafische wrote:

The Blue Motion is currently only available new throughout Europe and is no longer available used. (I bought the last one today in Belgium ).
Hello Bavarian.

Then, based on the engine code (MKB) and the diagnostic trouble code (DTC), you should be able to tell whether the engine has a special tuning compared to the standard 80 hp TDI engine...

Unfortunately, I don't have any data on the new 1.4-liter Polo TDIs .

10-10-2006, 19:11 Subject:

Hi everyone,

Autokiste.de writes about the BlueMotion, mentioning an optimized AGR (acoustic roll control), an ATL (turbocharger with variable turbine geometry) ==> maximum torque at 1800 rpm instead of 2200 rpm (according to auto motor und sport - 195 Nm at 1800 rpm), and a transmission with a gear ratio that is 12-24% longer in gears 3 to 5.

Best regards,
Munch.

10-10-2006, 20:18 Subject:

It's strange that VW is unaware of the changes in torque.

Please see www.volkswagen.de.

11-10-2006, 9:31 Subject:

Yes, it's listed in the configurator!

11-10-2006, 10:44 Subject:

contra!

11-10-2006, 11:35 Subject:

1:0 for you.

11-10-2006, 18:27 Subject:

Please pay attention to the upper RPM limit at which the maximum torque should be achieved.

13-10-2006, 13:12 Subject:

Hmm... according to the picture, I would say that Dieselmartin didn't choose the BlueMotion version. At least, the front grille is the standard one.

Best regards.
Dirk.

13-10-2006, 15:21 Subject:

Sure, pretzel.

The issue is that the "80" Blue and the standard Blue appear very similar.

@guste

In the technical specifications for both engines, the upper limit is 2200. However, they differ in the configuration.

m;

13-10-2006, 16:29 Subject:

Oops. Sorry. Pay attention when buying eggs!

Dirk.

13-10-2006, 20:24 Subject:

dieselmartin wrote:

In the text (technical data), the upper limit is 2200 for both motors.

Only in the configuration are they different.

Well, that certainly speaks volumes about the reliability of the other information provided. }

13-10-2006, 21:57 Subject:

Does the standard Polo engine also have a VTG turbocharger, or only the BlueMotion model?

13-10-2006, 22:27 Subject:

I consider the information about the VTG loader as not yet confirmed

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m;

16-10-2006, 20:18 Subject:

Hello everyone,

I was able to answer all my questions myself. This year's Aachen Motor Colloquium was very informative.

The Blue Motion engine features a VTG turbocharger with an adjustable geometry turbine (AGT), a larger EGR cooler, a modified oil separator, a friction-optimized engine block, a revised head gasket, and already incorporates the 1.5 PD TDI technology with 2200 bar injection pressure, along with a customized engine control unit (ECU) map. I would call that going the extra mile.

Compression ratio 18.5:1, 195 Nm of torque from 1800-2200 RPM - all the information online is incorrect.

The fuel consumption: Impressive. Normal driving in highway/city/rural areas averages around 4.2 liters, and it almost never exceeds 5 liters. At a constant speed of 170 km/h (GPS), it uses a real 6.0 liters, which no other VW achieves - no matter what you might say.

Hard to believe.

Greetings.

16-10-2006, 20:53 Subject:

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Compression ratio 18.5:1, 195Nm from 1800-2200 RPM - all the information online is incorrect.

Why is that wrong? VW actually says exactly that - even on the internet.

Ah... you probably meant those other forums and joke websites.

Thank you for the information.

m;

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The Blue Motion engine features a VTG turbocharger with an adjustable geometry turbine (AGT), a larger EGR cooler, a modified oil separator, a friction-optimized engine block, a revised head gasket, and already incorporates the 1.5 PD technology with 2200 bar injection pressure, along with a customized engine control unit (ECU) map. I would call that going the extra mile.

However, I doubt that will remain an 'extra,' as that would be far too expensive.
I expect that this engine will be available in the next Polo.
That makes sense.

The fuel consumption: Impressive. Normal driving in highway/city/rural areas averages around 4.2 liters, and it almost never exceeds 5 liters. At a constant speed of 170 km/h (GPS), it uses a real 6.0 liters, which no other VW achieves - no matter what you might say.

Hard to believe.

Greetings

'Yes, it's actually quite impressive, especially considering that no 'miracles' have been achieved mechanically. The dataset should be compared to the standard 1.4 TDI engine. I'm curious to see how much it has been modified and whether the techniques used in fuel-saving tuning are still present.'

@bafsche

According to theory (or at least, according to Volkswagen's consumption diagram), the Lupo 3L should consume less than 6 liters per 100km at 160km/h. However, I haven't tested that myself. It couldn't quite reach 170 km/h.

If we now also consider the comparison of weight and size, we can see that significant progress has been made in terms of efficiency in recent years.
Your 6.0-liter engine at 170 km/h is truly impressive.

Best regards, Jochen.