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Post22-08-2012, 8:23    Subject: BLS Short Lifeservice: What is it? Quote

HI,

Yes, our BLS had a problem initially because it didn't want to accept long-life tires. At that time, there was a new AI system; now, it's resolved through an update and an action sticker. After that, everything was okay.

Now, it's driven less than it used to be (120,000 km in the first 20 months).

But why does it need to go to the service after only 10,400 km?
546 days and he wants to be 14... but he was only born in February 2011.

OK, it's a city car... but does that make such a drastic difference / is it allowed to do so?


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Dienstag,21,August,2012,19:59:09:31600
VCDS Version: RKS 11.11.3
Datenstand: 20120406



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                Adresse 17: Kombiinstrument  (1K0 920 864 BX)

19:58:48 Block 005: Serviceinformationen I
  --  Service- überschreitung
  --  Service- überschreitung
  122  Restlaufstrecke
  14  Restlaufzeit

19:58:48 Block 006: Serviceinformationen II
  1120 ml  Min. Ölstand im Serviceintervall
  1580 ml  Max. Ölstand im Serviceintervall
  1300 ml  Langzeit Mittelwert Ölstandsdifferenz
       

19:58:48 Block 012: Serviceintervalldaten I
  40  Anpassungskanal
  104  Fahrtstrecke seit Service
  41  Anpassungskanal
  546  Tage seit Service


20:00:10 Block 014: Serviceintervalldaten III (Serviceintervall Begrenzung)
  44  Anpassungskanal
  744  Höchstmaß in Tagen
  49  Anpassungskanal
  372  Mindestmaß in Tagen

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Post22-08-2012, 8:40    Subject: BLS Short Lifeservice: What is it? Quote

What does "drastically" mean? He wants to switch after 1.5 years, which is completely normal, considering there are only a maximum of 2 options available, especially for short distances, etc.
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Post22-08-2012, 8:46    Subject: BLS Short Lifeservice: What is it? Quote

Okay, if you look at it that way, it makes sense.

I was surprised by the 10,400 km and had always only looked at the mileage as a prediction.

I probably need to improve my forecasting Excel sheet icon_wink.gif.
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Post22-08-2012, 14:09    Subject: BLS Short Lifeservice: What is it? Quote

dieselmartin wrote:
I was shocked by the 10400 km and had always only looked at the km as a forecast.
With a fixed interval, you should be able to drive almost 50% more distance until the next service - and with the approval of the OEM!
Long-lasting nonsense, may it thrive! icon_evil.gif
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Post22-08-2012, 15:53    Subject: BLS Short Lifeservice: What is it? Quote

ulf wrote:
With a fixed interval, you can drive almost 50% more distance before the next service - and with the approval of the original equipment manufacturer (OEM)!
Long-life fraud, may it thrive! icon_evil.gif


Pointless discussion.
However, I would definitely not let a car that only drives 1,500 km per year run on the same oil for 10 years, no matter what the original equipment manufacturer (OEM) recommends as the interval.
All the time/distance calculations I learned about through the WIV seemed very reasonable to me (with the exception of T5). I have significantly revised my skepticism about the WIV, but I still switch gears at least once per ride, even if it means going below the recommended minimum.

@MartinViewing profile: Martin, I also think that 1.5 out of 2 years is already a very good value for short distances.

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Post22-08-2012, 15:56    Subject: BLS Short Lifeservice: What is it? Quote

ulf wrote:
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With a fixed interval, you can drive almost 50% more distance before the next service, and with the approval of the original equipment manufacturer (OEM)!


Mööööp .... The candidate receives 0 points!

http://www.volkswagen.de/de/servicezubehoer/VolkswagenService/pflege_und_wartung/inspektion/die_service_intervalle.html

With a fixed interval, Martin should have appeared for the service 6 months ago, because the 12 months had already expired... icon_wink.gif

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Long-life fraud, may it thrive! icon_evil.gif


.... especially if you don't understand it .... icon_lol.gif
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Post22-08-2012, 16:07    Subject: BLS Short Lifeservice: What is it? Quote

haithamina wrote:

... I have significantly revised my skepticism towards WIV ...


Oh... Interesting to hear... icon_wink.gif

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... but I switch gears at least once per minute, even if it means going below the specified speed.


Something similar is happening to my car now.

My AXR engine is in a similar situation to Martin's BLS engine. Even though I was using LL3 oil, I changed it after 12 months and 9500 km. I'm sure it would have lasted until 12 or 14,000 km, which would have been about 1.5 years.
But why should I unnecessarily strain my engine?
The non-LL oil is significantly more expensive for me anyway, so I'll stick with the LL service.
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Post22-08-2012, 16:23    Subject: BLS Short Lifeservice: What is it? Quote

Bertil wrote:
With a fixed interval, Martin should have appeared for the service 6 months ago, as the 12 months had already expired... icon_wink.gif
Oops icon_redface.gif
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Post27-08-2012, 15:47    Subject: BLS Short Lifeservice: What is it? Quote

@BertilViewing profile: Bertil
How much does a liter of LL3 oil cost you? Really good 5W40 PD oil costs about 8€ per liter.


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