VCDS and OBD diagnostic device in the On-Board Diagnostics Shop
Diesel, Engine Technology and Vehicle Technology. Repair, Maintenance and Diagnostics (OBD).

How much longer until the next LL oil change?

 
New Topic Reply 🔗 🖨 Dieselschrauber - Index » On-Board Diagnostics (OBD)
Author Message
scrdel
Blaumann
Blaumann


Joined: 01/22/2006
Posts: 127
Karma: +4 / -2   Thank you, like it!
Location: im Norden
2002 Volkswagen Passat
Free account, no CAN development support

Post16-09-2007, 18:15    Subject: How much longer until the next LL oil change? Quote

Hello,

I checked the instrument cluster today; I wanted to see how much time I had left before my next long-life oil change.

But I couldn't find where to locate it.
The values for LL were displayed in channels 43, 44, and 45, while channel 48 showed a value of 100.
Channels 40 and 41 only show how long ago I had a service done.

What should a reading of 100 on channel 48 tell me about the oil quality?

Is there a way to see when the next service is theoretically due?
Actually, it's more like approximately, because I could also change my driving style, which would mean more or less wear and tear.

The search didn't show me anything related to that topic.

Sven.
Passat Variant Highline 2,0 TDI 103KW


Translated on 19-07-2026, 1:50.
Back to top Profile PM Garage
mserge
Schrauber
Schrauber


Joined: 06/20/2005
Posts: 923
Karma: +6 / -0   Thank you, like it!
Location: Luxemburg

Support

Post17-09-2007, 15:42    Subject: How much longer until the next LL oil change? Quote

As far as I know, the low fuel warning light is displayed on the instrument cluster (approximately 5000 km in advance).
In my A4, when the car is stationary, I can display the reset mileage by pressing a button in the FIS (onboard information system).
A4 Avant 2,5 tdi 110kw; AFB; BJ2000
4 neue Nockenwellen bei 135 tkm!!
neuer Turbo bei 200.000km
neue ESP bei 216.000km
verkauft mit 225000tkm
jetzt Renault Espace 2,0 dci 172 Initiale BJ2012
Clio 2 RS 170 PS BJ2003


Translated on 19-07-2026, 1:51.
Back to top Profile PM
Bertil
Profi-Schrauber
Profi-Schrauber


Joined: 04/15/2002
Posts: 5628
Karma: +108 / -0   Thank you, like it!


Premium Support

Post17-09-2007, 20:25    Subject: How much longer until the next LL oil change? Quote

mserge wrote:
As far as I know, the oil life service indicator is displayed in the instrument cluster (approximately 5000 km in advance).

... 3000 km ...
Quote:

In my A4, while the vehicle is stationary, I can display the reset mileage by pressing the button in the FIS (multifunction display).

... only at Audi, not at VW. icon_wink.gif

Quote:
Can I see when the next service is theoretically due?


No... at least not at Volkswagen.
Audi has a feature in its station wagons that allows for an (inaccurate) prediction.
Gruß Bertil

Skoda 5E5 CZDA + Mini R50 W10 + VW ID.3 + Fiat Ducato 250 + 161 DX

*** Technische Anfragen per PN werden von mir nicht beantwortet! ***


Translated on 19-07-2026, 1:53.
Back to top Profile PM
Ross-Tech-Support
Profi-Schrauber
Profi-Schrauber


Joined: 05/30/2005
Posts: 646
Karma: +8 / -0   Thank you, like it!


Support

Post18-09-2007, 0:51    Subject: How much longer until the next LL oil change? Quote

"This feature is indeed not available on older models like the 1J and 3B, but it can be found in the measurement blocks of current models (regardless of whether they are Audi, VW, Seat, or Skoda)."

For example, with models on the Golf 5 platform (MWB 005), my Škoda is currently showing a remaining service interval of 54, which means 5400 km. This indicates that I need to take it for servicing at approximately 23,000 km. That's acceptable for a gasoline engine...


Translated on 19-07-2026, 1:54.
Back to top Profile PM
mserge
Schrauber
Schrauber


Joined: 06/20/2005
Posts: 923
Karma: +6 / -0   Thank you, like it!
Location: Luxemburg

Support

Post18-09-2007, 9:26    Subject: How much longer until the next LL oil change? Quote

Bertil wrote:
mserge wrote:
As far as I know, the oil level is displayed on the instrument cluster (approximately 5000 km in advance).

... 3000 km ...



Oh, then my car probably has a bug; it showed "service due in 5100 km" two weeks ago.
300 km later, it now displays "Service"!!
A4 Avant 2,5 tdi 110kw; AFB; BJ2000
4 neue Nockenwellen bei 135 tkm!!
neuer Turbo bei 200.000km
neue ESP bei 216.000km
verkauft mit 225000tkm
jetzt Renault Espace 2,0 dci 172 Initiale BJ2012
Clio 2 RS 170 PS BJ2003


Translated on 19-07-2026, 1:55.
Back to top Profile PM
goettmann
Guest




 


Free account, no CAN development support

Post18-09-2007, 12:11    Subject: How much longer until the next LL oil change? Quote

...
For example, with models on the Golf 5 platform, specifically those manufactured under production code MWB 005.
...

But probably not for everyone.
'I know some (early) G5 models that show absolutely nothing on MWB005, even though they have LL encoding. The later (newer) ones have always shown something on MWB005 so far.'

Well, then my station wagon probably has a bug.
No!
The warning light for the service interval also depends on the specific car model. Some cars display it starting at 3,000 km, while others start showing it at 5,000 km. This is defined by the vehicle manufacturer. As far as I remember, VW sets it to 3,000 km and Audi to 5,000 km.
This should be clearly stated in every usage guide. icon_wink.gif


Translated on 19-07-2026, 1:57.
Back to top
scrdel
Blaumann
Blaumann


Joined: 01/22/2006
Posts: 127
Karma: +4 / -2   Thank you, like it!
Location: im Norden
2002 Volkswagen Passat
Free account, no CAN development support

Post19-09-2007, 17:54    Subject: How much longer until the next LL oil change? Quote

... first of all, thank you for the feedback.

What should a value of 100 in block 48 (oil quality) indicate?



Sven.
Passat Variant Highline 2,0 TDI 103KW


Translated on 19-07-2026, 1:59.
Back to top Profile PM Garage
Ross-Tech-Support
Profi-Schrauber
Profi-Schrauber


Joined: 05/30/2005
Posts: 646
Karma: +8 / -0   Thank you, like it!


Support

Post19-09-2007, 18:09    Subject: How much longer until the next LL oil change? Quote

goettmann wrote:
I know some (early) G5 models that show absolutely nothing on the MWB005 display, even with LL encoding.


After reviewing several datasets, I have to say that I can't understand this. All of them have "005..." Do you have an example part number for an "early" G5?

scrdel wrote:
What should a value of 100 in block 48 (oil quality) tell me?


Channel 48 has nothing to do with oil quality; it refers to the thermal stress on the oil, which is used as a calculated value for the Water Insolubles Value (WIV).


Translated on 19-07-2026, 2:00.
Back to top Profile PM
therde



Joined: 09/07/2007
Posts: 26
Karma: +1 / -0   Thank you, like it!
Location: Hannover

Free account, no CAN development support

Post28-09-2007, 10:50    Subject: How much longer until the next LL oil change? Quote

Hello,

"I'm also very interested in this topic. In my car, the instrument cluster calculates it."
Also, there's no visible remaining time, at least not that I can see.

Aber an Hand der Messwerte müsste man das doch selbst berechnen können? DThe individual...
We have the oil level readings. Now we just need to know how the onboard computer processes this information.
calculated.

Or am I wrong about this?

Regards,
Timo.


Translated on 19-07-2026, 2:01.
Back to top Profile PM Email
AWX-Driver
Blaumann
Blaumann


Joined: 07/06/2007
Posts: 64
Karma: +1 / -0   Thank you, like it!

2005 Skoda Superb
Premium Support

Post28-09-2007, 17:30    Subject: How much longer until the next LL oil change? Quote

Hi Timo,

I think you're wrong about that.
The remaining life of the LL interval depends not only on the oil quality.

As far as I know, engine starts also consume oil reserves by diluting it with diesel, which leads to washing out of components and a loss of lubricating properties.

Furthermore, it's unlikely that many people will have access to logarithms for calculating the interval. Or are they?
Gruß
AWX-Driver
ehemals: Skoda Superb 96KW PD MKB AWX,
+ 2-Tank Pölumbau
jetzt: MB W210 E300TD T-Modell 133kW
mit Pölumbau


Translated on 19-07-2026, 2:03.
Back to top Profile PM Garage
New Topic Reply 🔗 🖨 Dieselschrauber - Index » On-Board Diagnostics (OBD)
Similar articles and topics
Topic Forum
No new posts Wie lange macht der Lader das noch mit? Diesel Engine Technology
No new posts How long is the sprinkler line? Diesel Engine Technology
No new posts Wie lange bis zum EDC-Fehlereintrag? Diesel Engine Technology
No new posts Long start time 1.9 PD AUY Diesel Engine Technology
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum.