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Post06-02-2004, 1:14    Subject: Conflict: MessBlock 0 and 4 Quote

Hi

I checked the basic settings of my 1Z (Measurement block 00) last time.

The timing is precisely on the center line.

Just now, I logged Block 04 (in urban public transport) and noticed that the pump never arrives as early as it wants icon_wink.gif

http://www.luxus-wg.de/~martin/auto_bilder/spritz.gif

Is this not a contradiction:
On the one hand, a picture book in TDI timing, and then block 04.

Okay, hier ist eine Erklärung, wie ich die Übersetzung durchführen werde, und warum ich die Anweisungen so interpretiere:

**Ziel:** Ich soll den deutschen Text so genau wie möglich ins Englische übersetzen, wobei ich die vorgegebenen exakt beibehalten muss.

**Meine Strategie:**

1. **Text verstehen:** Zuerst lese ich den deutschen Text sorgfältig durch, um sicherzustellen, dass ich seine Bedeutung vollständig verstehe.
2. ** identifizieren:** Ich suche nach den Stellen im Text, an denen die stehen. Diese sind wichtig, da ich sie genau so übernehmen muss.
3. **Übersetzen:** Ich übersetze den Text so genau wie möglich, wobei ich darauf achte, dass die Bedeutung erhalten bleibt. Ich versuche, natürliche und flüssige englische Sätze zu verwenden.
4. ** einfügen:** Nachdem ich den Text übersetzt habe, füge ich die genau an den Stellen ein, an denen sie im Originaltext stehen.
5. **Überprüfung:** Ich überprüfe die Übersetzung sorgfältig, um sicherzustellen, dass alle

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PS: When activating the basic settings, it increases the engine speed (not just a changed engine noise, as others describe!).
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Post06-02-2004, 11:25    Subject: Conflict: MessBlock 0 and 4 Quote

Hi,

I don't know what you want, but the diagram looks great!
Just a moment, the pink and yellow line in the lower part doesn't quite match, but that's the area where you either have the engine running in idle or the engine is idling.
In the idle mode, the EDC has difficulty detecting the start of the fuel injection. Reason: In the idling mode, there is no injection. icon_mrgreen.gif

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Post06-02-2004, 12:29    Subject: Conflict: MessBlock 0 and 4 Quote

Oops, that's right, the problems with pushing are explainable.

I was just wondering, why they never match the target and actual values even when the system is idle.

At the colleague's AHU, they fit perfectly - that was surprising.

Okay, I'll trust you and rely on your words.

Thank you.
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Post06-02-2004, 12:52    Subject: Conflict: MessBlock 0 and 4 Quote

Hello,

How much do the values differ in idle mode?

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Post06-02-2004, 13:14    Subject: Conflict: MessBlock 0 and 4 Quote

Hello,
I had this issue too. After the ZR change to TDI timing, I put a lot of effort into precisely setting the static timing to the middle line. I was hoping for a better starting performance. However, when I started logging data, I found that the dynamic control was reaching its limit with low load and speed (60km/h, 5th gear, level road, and cruise control) and wasn't able to regulate effectively at late timing. I then re-adjusted the "static" timing within the tolerance, and everything was fine. However, this was the position as it was before my correction, specifically in the center of the field.
Maybe we're just being too meticulous - At VW, this approach would definitely be within acceptable limits, and I don't believe that someone there could put in so much (time/effort) as described.
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Post06-02-2004, 13:48    Subject: Conflict: MessBlock 0 and 4 Quote

Hi Rainer

I don't have the log file handy right now, but in idle mode, it's trying to set -3.1 degrees, but IST is actually at 0.6 degrees.

So, eine Differenz von 3,7 Grad

When it's under load, the values are nicely aligned.

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Post06-02-2004, 14:00    Subject: Conflict: MessBlock 0 and 4 Quote

Hi, well, the difference in the idle is not ideal, but also not critical. Does it run a bit rougher when idling and require a bit less fuel...?
Whether it's worth getting the tool out for that, is a matter of personal preference, I would say icon_cool.gif
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Post06-02-2004, 14:13    Subject: Conflict: MessBlock 0 and 4 Quote

I set the funding start date according to the key ratio after Ulf, using painstaking manual adjustments.

just a small interjection: but aren't you setting it up in the basic settings mode? you can never know! (we once had a mega-thread and at the end it turned out that it wasn't done in the basic settings mode)
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Post06-02-2004, 14:41    Subject: Conflict: MessBlock 0 and 4 Quote

In the default setting, it is exactly on the target line (center).

In normaler Betrieb (daher die Protokollierung) gibt es deutliche Abweichungen.

Therefore, the question of the apparent CONFLICT also arises.

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Post06-02-2004, 18:51    Subject: Conflict: MessBlock 0 and 4 Quote

'It was probably just a guess. As I said, we had been discussing this for weeks. Ultimately, the problem was with the initial settings.'

I handle it like Rainer. I'm more critical in my eyes. The diagram looks quite decent. Don't get worked up and don't break it.
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Post08-02-2004, 3:15    Subject: Conflict: MessBlock 0 and 4 Quote

Okay, thanks.

I'm letting the spraying process continue peacefully, because real problems have arisen:

http://www.luxus-wg.de/~martin/auto_bilder/nebler_tod.jpg

The thing just broke down during normal operation !!

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Post09-03-2004, 20:28    Subject: Conflict: MessBlock 0 and 4 Quote

What the heck is that?

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Post09-03-2004, 21:24    Subject: Conflict: MessBlock 0 and 4 Quote

What the heck is that?

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Oh, here's the quiz bot causing trouble... a cool riddle! icon_wink.gif
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Post09-03-2004, 21:56    Subject: Conflict: MessBlock 0 and 4 Quote

Hi,

the link actually ruins it:

...fog_death.jpg

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Post09-03-2004, 22:25    Subject: Conflict: MessBlock 0 and 4 Quote

hadn't encountered a faulty fog machine yet, so I had no idea about its inner workings.

I will only create black clouds icon_cool.gif


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Post10-03-2004, 0:10    Subject: Conflict: MessBlock 0 and 4 Quote

Here is the solution:

http://www.luxus-wg.de/~martin/auto_bilder/nebler_2Versionen.jpg

On the left, the melted plastic version, on the right, glass.

Everything is just cheap garbage now!!!
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