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Post26-04-2004, 23:01    Subject: EPROM Programmer: Reprogramming Engine Data on eBay Quote

I found some EEPROM programmers with accompanying software on eBay. Supposedly, this tool allows you to adjust maps yourself and burn them onto EEPROMs. Has anyone had any experience with something like that? It sounds like a fun toy, right?

http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7900668548&category=40183

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Post27-04-2004, 6:40    Subject: EPROM Programmer: Reprogramming Engine Data on eBay Quote

It's itching my fingers somehow. icon_twisted.gif

But somehow, I doubt that this thing will work 100%, because...
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Post27-04-2004, 9:15    Subject: EPROM Programmer: Reprogramming Engine Data on eBay Quote

Hello TDIspeed,

My advice: Stay away from it!

1) The field programming software won't help you because it can only process data up to 256KB. The data from the MSG chips is larger.

'You can only edit the data sets if you know exactly where each piece of information is stored in the chip. This is absolutely not self-explanatory for laypersons. Furthermore, you can't simply change a single parameter and think that's all there is to it. Proper chip tuning requires adjusting multiple parameter maps (and, of course, corresponding checksums).'

3) The CD containing the included datasets likely doesn't contain high-quality data. It's possible your engine won't even start, or it will be damaged, or it might smoke excessively, and so on...

'Have you checked whether the burner is actually capable of burning the chips that are installed in your control unit?'

If you are still planning to tinker with your chips yourself, then you can start reading on this page: http://www.chipboard.eu.tf/

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Post27-04-2004, 9:25    Subject: EPROM Programmer: Reprogramming Engine Data on eBay Quote

Sure, here is the translation of the text from German to English:

'Hi,'
It's probably not a scam, but with that 'equipment,' you won't be able to build a second income stream.
The programmer (which should be the Batronix; it may be available cheaper elsewhere) can (without...).
Adapter) only supports DIP EEPROMs. With the TDI models, this limitation ends in the year 1996 (although there might be a few exceptions).
few T4s or Sharans where the MSA12 still functioned after 1997).
From that point on, you'll need adapters (PLCC32, SOP44, TSOP56, etc.). These often cost more than the chips themselves, per piece.
Package. Aside from that, the question remains whether the adapters will work with the programmer.
(With the PLCC32, it might still work, but the others have a 16-bit data bus - I know.)
It's not about whether the Batronix can do it; at least, all the listed types are 8-bit devices.

The software looks like a 'Race 2000' demo version.
My old 021BF from '96 (early MSA15) already has a 256kB dataset.
That's definitely the end of the line.
The software probably won't allow you to modify the checksums... further limitations - ???

In the chip tuning forum, you can find demos (or links to them) for Race, WinOLS, and Mister ED.
The latter is freeware.

I only dabble in chip tuning; officially, it's just considered maintenance.
'Industrial motor software; but they are the same tools). I use WinOLS for this (with the...'
and a Galep3 (with the appropriate adapters).
Cost: approximately 5000 EUR. However, I wouldn't use this equipment for...
I'm considering starting a business. Besides the necessary expertise, I also need to find ways to...
um die neueren Fahrzeuge über OBD (oder BDM - EDC16) zu programmieren. That's where you end up.
very quickly, in the five-digit range.

Best regards, Rudi.

EDIT: Hi Private, You were faster icon_cool.gif.


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