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Post11-01-2005, 15:05    Subject: Translation: Is it all about translation? Quote

Hello,

Often, the short gear ratio of the 5-speed AFN engines has been criticized, especially in the 5th gear.
I would have preferred not to sign this, as the situation on highways usually requires maintaining a consistent speed rather than adhering to a maximum speed limit.
In a direct comparison of vehicles with roughly the same weight, both gasoline and diesel engines with similar power outputs showed very little difference in top speed (2-3 km/h, which is negligible).
At this point, I would like to consider whether the G3 AFN is optimally translated.
und zwar mit und trotz 10ct! Tuning.
(Regarding performance and speed! - not economy and culture)

Because...
In the winter, I use tires with a slightly larger circumference than in the summer. As a result, the car covers fewer kilometers per hour according to the speedometer (instead of 190 km/h, it now shows only 175 km/h on my reference test track). The tachometer barely reaches the red line due to the lack of power, but the speedometer still indicates a high speed of approximately 207/208 km/h, which would be equivalent to around 220 km/h with summer tires.
In reality, with the DZM at 2tr and a red line, I only reach about 215 km/h according to the speedometer in the summer. icon_surprised.gif The acceleration across the entire range seems to have changed only marginally (my measurements don't really show anything anyway icon_redface.gif), although the winter tires...
'Less than 1500 tours reveal signs of fatigue.'

Zieht man jetzt die Box ab, so schiebt sich doch die Sommerreifenkonfiguration exakt dahin wo er im Winter tatsächlich ist. Heißt ohne Box liefern die Uhren im Sommer die selben Werte wie im Winter mit Box zurück, bei obj weniger Vmax. Ohne Box und Winterreifen wird die Sache zäh, noch weniger Drehzahl fast optimal lt. DZM 4150) und ganzganz knapp über 200 km/h lt. Tacho

I'm noticing a dip in performance, especially in summer conditions.

So it seems that, in my opinion, the VAG group has chosen the optimal conditions.
My thought process only subjectively considers the 'summer slump' and the narrower winter tires.
I don't have any numbers, representative measurements, or Excel spreadsheets.

I believe that this setting represents a golden mean for performance and speed; otherwise, either the lack of power or the loss of speed, or both, would increase exponentially.

Are there any formulas for that? Has anyone calculated it before?


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Post11-01-2005, 15:26    Subject: Translation: Is it all about translation? Quote

Hi,

You should already be aware that, regardless of the tires you're using (without external factors), you have the same speedometer readings. Even if you were driving on the brake discs (as an extreme example), you would still see the same value on the speedometer at 3000 RPM as you would with winter tires!

Only the reference point changes – that is, what you refer to as the reference distance. Seconds on the stopwatch count too, or kilometers measured by GPS.

That makes perfect sense, because the speedometer is connected to the transmission, and nothing changes on the path from the engine to the transmission when you put on different tires.

I hardly notice any difference between 195/60 R14 summer tires and 185/60 R14 winter tires.
Consumption change calculations based on odometer readings are also not permissible (due to the incorrect reference point, see above).

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Post11-01-2005, 15:33    Subject: Translation: Is it all about translation? Quote

Well, I always seem to have some kind of inconsistency or contradiction in my models.
It's slowly becoming normal for me icon_mad.gif. I'm such an idiot, of course.

You're welcome.

Best regards,


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