Should the water pump definitely be replaced?

Hello.

Just a quick question for my own reference.

I have a 2004 Octavia Combi with an ASZ engine. Now I'm just about to reach 120,000 km, and my timing belt is due for replacement.
"I'm now more frequently replacing the water pump for all sorts of engine types. It's definitely something that needs to be changed, as it won't last another 120,000 kilometers. And if the pump fails, a new timing belt is definitely required because it shouldn't be tightened more than twice."
Conclusion: I will definitely tell the workshop to replace the water pump as well.

Sure, I'm ready. Please provide the text you want me to translate from German to English.
What is the maximum cost of switching providers, including the connection fee (WaPu), with a friendly provider?

Best regards, Limpi.

That is correct.
The additional cost should not be significantly higher than the price of the individual components; it's a matter of synergy.

I would also switch to a different brand. The price for the replacement at a contracted workshop should quickly reach an increase of around €100 for the pump and new coolant, including its disposal.

The change isn't strictly necessary, but it allows you to continue driving with complete peace of mind. The thing is, if the pump fails after replacing the belt, all the work done previously is wasted. A workshop will only respond to inquiries unless it's a truly meticulous one, but unfortunately, that's rare in the realm of poor customer service.

You can get an idea of the overall exchange rate here.
To find original parts including installation http://www.ahw-shop.de/start.php?main.php.

They cost €299 without the warranty package (WaPu) and €349 with the warranty package, including all parts. That's probably the absolute lowest price you'll find from reputable sellers, so be prepared to pay up to €450-€500 including VAT when you buy it in person.

Yes, Roger, but the G12 Plus is still missing, and you know that the dealership often charges a lot for fluids. Or are the prices for G12+ reasonable at the dealership? I personally bought the original timing belt kit for my ASZ engine as an accessory, including the water pump, the filters to be replaced, and G12+ coolant (the oil came from a different source), and it cost me around 200 euros (+/- a few euros).

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It's just that, when the pump fails after a belt replacement, all the work was for nothing.

That wouldn't be so bad.

It is not uncommon for the water pump to seize in the engine compartment, which in 90% of cases leads to engine damage.
I personally know of several cases where this has happened.

Considering how small the water pump is compared to the massive tensioner pulley, and the fact that it's located in the path of the timing belt, it's incomprehensible and irresponsible that the manufacturer doesn't provide a replacement procedure for the water pump.

matthiasTDI96 wrote:

Yes, Roger, but the G12 Plus is still missing, and you know that the dealership often charges a lot for fluids. Or are the prices for G12+ reasonable at the dealership? I personally bought the original timing belt kit for my ASZ engine as an accessory, including the water pump, the filters to be replaced, and G12+ coolant (the oil came from a different source), and it cost me around 200 euros (+/- a few euros)

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While I don't see anything about additional charges here, the G12+ costs only €6.50 per 1.5 liters, which is reasonable. The offer includes labor time and original parts, so I don't think you'll find anything comparable easily. Consider the time involved, the specialized tools, and, not least, the warranty on the work. And that's for a difference of approximately €150.

You could almost consider a 2-day short vacation in the "wild East," including a temporary replacement assignment .

Yes, that's really true... but I will never let anyone near my car... EVER.

matthiasTDI96 wrote:

Yes, that is really true.....but I will not let anyone near my car...NEVER AGAIN...

That, however, also has something .

My 'advice' might sound a bit out there, but I just have to say this:

Do not purchase vehicles where water pumps and/or other auxiliary components are additionally driven by the timing belt! These are negligent design flaws. A motor that completely self-destructs within a second due to a water pump bearing failure - isn't it incredible what kind of junk is being manufactured in this world?

SeatArosa1.7SDI wrote:

Even though my "advice" might sound a bit far-fetched, but it simply has to be said: Do not purchase vehicles where water pumps and/or other auxiliary components are additionally driven by the timing belt! These are negligent design flaws. A motor that completely self-destructs within a second due to a water pump bearing failure - isn't it incredible what kind of junk is being manufactured in this world?

If you want to get rid of the large groups of trucks on the railway tracks, then with current diesel engines, there is unfortunately very little choice .

Hello everyone,

Okay, thanks again for the confirmation. It could have been that VW has made changes to the design in the meantime, and that this only applies to "older" vehicles.
Okay, I'll instruct my colleagues to switch to a different water pump.
Since I'm quite good at this, he might find some damage on the wing (like a broken wing or something) that could potentially be covered by the warranty.

Let's see. So far, I've been very happy with my workshop, and I think they'll do a good job with the belt replacement.

Best regards, Limpi.