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Post05-01-2009, 22:28    Subject: Retrofit DPF for older R5 TDI (AEL)? Quote

Hi there,

Our regulations for the environmental zone will no longer require red stickers starting in 2010.
Before I start complaining about an exception for a vehicle that cannot be retrofitted, let me ask if anyone knows whether there are any filter systems available for the Audi A6 C4 with either the AAT or AEL engine.
I haven't really found anything there...

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Post06-01-2009, 2:11    Subject: Retrofit DPF for older R5 TDI (AEL)? Quote

http://www.oberland-mangold.de/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=76&Itemid=118&lang=de

They should have something available for AEL and AAT, but it costs around €600 for a one-year extension in disadvantaged areas, or until a maximum of 2011 in other cities.

Does it really make financial sense and is it worth it?


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Post06-01-2009, 22:20    Subject: Retrofit DPF for older R5 TDI (AEL)? Quote

Hi there,
Thank you for the reply. I had seen that before, but according to Oberland, they are not really available. Then I discovered something from Remus, but those are only available in Austria...
It is rumored that vehicles with a sticker but which cannot be retrofitted may receive special permits. Well, if the problem doesn't resolve itself through self-destruction or external destruction, then I have to come up with something icon_smile.gif.
It's a shame about the car; I had such a reliable and economical vehicle before.

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Okay, please provide the German text you would like me to translate into English. I will only provide the translation.
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Post07-01-2009, 9:13    Subject: Retrofit DPF for older R5 TDI (AEL)? Quote

Parts for Remus exhaust systems can also be sourced in Germany through large distributors. There are no restrictions preventing the sale of Remus products here. If in doubt, it's best to contact the manufacturer directly to inquire whether they would supply parts to a workshop that installs them. As far as I know, they do not sell directly to private customers.
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Post07-01-2009, 9:34    Subject: Retrofit DPF for older R5 TDI (AEL)? Quote

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whether they would potentially supply it to a workshop for installation


He does, but they don't stick to the delivery dates very strictly icon_rolleyes.gif.
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Post07-01-2009, 9:58    Subject: Retrofit DPF for older R5 TDI (AEL)? Quote

1. Order.
2. Wait.

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Post07-01-2009, 12:45    Subject: Retrofit DPF for older R5 TDI (AEL)? Quote

Hi,

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Our regulations for the environmental zone will no longer require red stickers starting in 2010.


Just a heads-up... it seems they also want to stop requiring yellow stickers for vehicles from the year 2010 onwards in Berlin (as I gather from your profile)! At least, that was the situation when I last looked into it about 6 weeks ago (see my thread on the subject). However, things might still change (which is what I'm hoping for at the moment...).

Therefore, changing red to yellow wouldn't achieve anything, and I don't think there's a configuration where red could change to green.

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Post07-01-2009, 15:03    Subject: Retrofit DPF for older R5 TDI (AEL)? Quote

"Absolutely! According to the Senate's opinion, "red" cars have already been given a year of grace, as there was initially talk of not allowing Euro 2 diesel vehicles into the environmental zone starting in 2009. In my opinion, Euro 2 diesels are almost unsellable. Right now, people in Poland are only buying Golf Variant (TDI) models from 1997 for a few hundred euros. Taking them as trade-ins is completely out of the question; you can't even get a scrappage bonus for them." rausschlagen.

If you're looking for an affordable replacement car, then currently there's no way around older gasoline-powered vehicles. Whether these "fuel-guzzling" Euro 1 models are actually more environmentally friendly is questionable. However, they still qualify for a green sticker and allow unrestricted access to environmental zones, even if they emit fumes.
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Post07-01-2009, 16:18    Subject: Retrofit DPF for older R5 TDI (AEL)? Quote

Hi there,
I am already aware that it is at most "yellow" icon_smile.gif.
It was just a question of whether the retrofit is even possible. And based on how I interpret Remus's list (due to distribution being limited to Austria), I might have a filter in the exhaust, but because it doesn't have official approval, I can't benefit from any tax credits, and I won't get a differently colored sticker.
The background is that I recently heard that EURO2 (or even EURO3) diesel vehicles that cannot be retrofitted are supposedly being granted a longer grace period, at least in Berlin.

Best regards from Berlin,
Okay, please provide the German text you would like me to translate into English. I will only provide the translation.
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Post07-01-2009, 17:04    Subject: Retrofit DPF for older R5 TDI (AEL)? Quote

It would be helpful to inquire directly with Remus/Sebring about that.
They provide information quite quickly and also fairly comprehensively. They might even have something available with German documentation.

There are definitely options for AAT/AEL in the Austrian price list.
As I said - inquiries icon_wink.gif.
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Post07-01-2009, 17:55    Subject: Retrofit DPF for older R5 TDI (AEL)? Quote

I wouldn't rely on the grace period for diesel vehicles that cannot be retrofitted. When Berlin introduced the environmental zone, it also only granted exemptions based on a "scattershot" approach, giving special permits to vehicles that couldn't receive an emissions sticker. If you had connections, you might have had a chance. However, countless businesses were rejected and either closed down or left Berlin. The Senate probably accepted this as a consequence.
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