BKD Sitze der PD Elemente | Posts 16+

In Austria, the cylinder head with valves and camshaft costs 1140 Euros from the original manufacturer. It includes everything you need except for the head gasket (PD O-rings, screws, etc.).

In the replica, we only had one cylinder head without camshafts, but it would have been more expensive with the camshafts than the original.

Available for free. See TPI 2020364/3.

It's a bit late, but the release actually happened on February 2, 2010 .

Even for vehicles manufactured in 2004/2005.

Hi there.


Okay, so, regarding that PD element, you can probably have the 'guides' welded all around with a pretty high degree of certainty... and it should also be possible to rework it... the main problem will probably be the head.


Laser welding might also be possible, but it would likely take too long due to the large area, making it too expensive, aside from the rework required.

Where are the PPDs located in the head? The three narrow rings of the standard ones must be inserted somehow... Do the PPDs sit on a wider surface area? The entire seating area looks different. Is this only a problem with the 16vs? They are already secured with two screws...


The next car my parents buy will be a gasoline-powered one again.

'It's kind of strange that in some cases, these things last a relatively long time, while in others, they're essentially dead before 200,000 km. My sister has had 3 Audi TDIs in the last 4 years, and all of them ended up with over 200,000 km on the clock, and none of them had any issues with the engine (just a few problems with the automatic transmissions...), despite what I consider to be a terrible driving style .'

Marc.

BM wrote:

Quote: Are there perhaps also differences between PPD and regular PD elements? Die PPDs scheinen in der Tat präziser gefertigt zu sein (s. Photo). They also appear to have a much smoother surface overall, and the guides seem to be designed more generously. About 4 weeks ago, I replaced 2 of these on a Passat 3C BKP. (Unfortunately, they don't perform very well electrically). I was surprised that these weren't worn out. Quote: Maybe I'll ask a laser welder if it's possible to weld it "cheaply" (in the head) and then do some finishing work... the shape of the seat in the head doesn't seem that complicated... I don't think that's really feasible. I'm looking for a cost-effective solution that is also feasible and reliable. Roughly, what I have in mind is the following: Re-work the borehole in the ZK (both diameters) using a reamer or similar tool to dimensions X and Y until the borehole is round again. Disassemble the PD components and generously machine away any damaged areas of the guide (Image 1), replacing them with a custom-made ring (either pressed in or shrink-fitted). Then, machine it down to our specified dimension X and smooth it. This would restore the upper guide. The aluminum guide component would need to be newly manufactured with appropriate over-dimensions X and Y. The guiding surface of this component could be further optimized without narrowing the fuel channels. Then all you need to do is find sealing rings with an oversized diameter. Currently, I don't know if all of this is feasible and what the associated effort would be. I'm concerned about how to restore the perfectly smooth surface of the ZK bore. A mechanical engineer or engine mechanic would probably have something to say about that. What do you think about it?

Hi,

Can you tell from the packaging or the PD element itself if it's still manufactured by Siemens? I heard from a friend that the new version of these PD elements is no longer produced by Siemens. Apparently, they are more durable and less prone to coking, and the nozzles are supposedly coated differently.

Best regards.

Tom.

It doesn't just have the 170 horsepower engine from Siemens.

hiho

Sure, so like BMR/BMR, etc...

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It is available free of charge. See TPI 2020364/3. It's a bit late, but the release happened on February 2, 2010.

It's strange, 2 didn't know anything about it. If I'm not mistaken, the vehicle has been sold. But the next one will surely come along. Still, thank you. Where can I find the content of the TPI?

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The 3 narrow rings from the standard model must be integrated somehow... do they make contact with the PPD on a wider surface? The entire seating area looks different. Is this only a problem with the 16vs? They are already secured with 2 screws...

Unfortunately, the two screws don't really say anything in this case, because nothing is actually screwed together here, but rather just clamped. The PD (presumably a component) doesn't make any connection or press-fit with the ZK (another component) at the connection point. The screws only push the PD into the lower cone of the ZK, nothing else. In the event of wear, of course, everything that contributes to guiding the PD will be worn out.

A few extra grams of material in the right place would probably have made the difference.
Perhaps the so-called specialists simply provided the supplier with incorrect measurements, resulting in the upper part being too small.

If this trend continues, where vehicles increasingly only stay together by chance and can only be financed with a guaranteed insurance policy, which also involves market intervention (which shouldn't actually be the case anymore, but consumers are afraid of having to get their vehicle serviced elsewhere),
In my opinion, the legislator should be involved.

Stummel wrote:

moin Is this only a problem with the 16vs models?

Are there any possible answers to that?

Nikolabob wrote:

Stummel wrote: Hi Is this only a problem with the 16vs models? Are there possibly also answers to this?

It depends, but the 8V PD injectors often fail even with high mileage.

Perhaps we could start a "noodle survey" sometime, including the mileage and engine code?

Best regards, Rainer.

"When I read all of this, I feel quite uneasy. Apparently, only vehicles with the new PD components are affected, right?"

I've now reached 480,000 km and the seats aren't worn out, and none of the components are malfunctioning... I've only had to replace 2 PD units so far.

I believe that owning a PD car is the best thing that has ever happened to me!

GTI wrote:

When I read all of this, I feel quite different. Apparently, only vehicles with the new PD components are affected, or? I've now reached 480,000 km and the seats aren't worn out, and none of the components are malfunctioning... I've only had to replace 2 PD units so far. I believe that owning a PD car is the best thing that has ever happened to me!

Hmm, even with the "older" PDs, it sometimes happens that they get worn out.

What was the condition of the seat when it was replaced due to a PD issue? What was the mileage at the time? Were the PDs actually defective?

"We're probably lucky with our PD engines; my car with 325,000 km has never had the valve cover opened, meaning the PD components are still original! I hope it stays that way for a long time."

Similarly, VP-TDI engines like the AHF, ASV, and AFN are also quite durable machines.

I'm rooting for you to reach 500,000 km!

The seat in the engine compartment looked completely normal. Clean and tidy. I replaced the fuel injector for cylinder 1 once, at 150,000 km. At that time, I also converted the remaining injectors to ball joints.

Around 2006:

VAG-COM Version: DRV 311.3-S

Control unit part number: 038 906 019 AQ.
Component and/or version: 1.9L R4 EDC G000SG 1230.
Encoding: 00002
Workshop code: WSC 01317.
"One error found:"
17669 - Valve for pump/nozzle, cylinder 1 (N240): Limit exceeded.
P1261 - 35-00 - -


Then there was a period of quiet.


03:40 2009-08-21 332304 km

Friday, August 21, 2009, 03:39:55:54435
VCDS Version: RKS 805.4

Address 01: Engine
Control unit part number: 038 906 019 AQ
Component and/or version: 1.9L R4 EDC G000SG 1230.
Encoding: 00002
Company number: WSC 01317
2 errors found:

17978 - Engine control unit locked.
P1570 - 35-10 - - - Intermittent.
17672 - Valve for pump/nozzle, cylinder 2 (N241): Limit exceeded.
P1264 - 35-00 - -

Readiness: 0 0 X X X

Many people say you should always replace all or multiple PD (power distribution) components at the same time... I've never done that! It's also a matter of cost. €460 for a PD unit plus some small parts is enough for now.

Consider the pricing as well; it's not necessary to exchange all four items at the same time.

It seems I've been fortunate enough to avoid any PD (Pumpe-Düse) defects so far, and even with 325,000 km on the odometer, it's running smoothly, except for a slowly developing issue with the timing chain. Apparently, there aren't many vehicles that have reached over 300,000 km, probably because most are heavily modified, which isn't surprising.

Yes, yes, dear ZMS .

I also experience vibrations and noises when accelerating out of the low RPM range... It could also be the return spring... or everything together.

I'm just going to ignore that... I've been driving like that for 200,000 km.

At least I still have the original clutch.

I wish you good luck and hope it lasts for as long as possible.

GTI wrote:

Yes yes, dear ZMS I also experience vibrations and noises when accelerating out of the low RPM range... It could also be the return spring... or everything together. I'm just going to ignore that... I've been driving like that for 200,000 km. At least I still have the original clutch. I wish you good luck and hope it lasts for as long as possible.

Thank you To you too!
Drive it until it breaks.

"I've been ignoring it, but it's been noticeable since around 250,000 km. It only seemed to happen when I was towing a caravan, but now it's also noticeable without a caravan, especially at low RPMs below 2200 RPM."
Eventually, the ZMS will become deeply ingrained.
It also has the first clutch and dual-mass flywheel. Even the LLM is the first .
Sometimes, things are allowed to break.

My friend has a Volkswagen Golf IV ARL (year 2003) with 260,000 kilometers on the odometer.

'Nothing has ever been modified on the engine, only worn-out parts have been replaced.'
For the last 110,000 km, it has had an *** chip installed, increasing the power to 178 hp.

I'd also be interested to see what the PD seats look like, but I'm not going to change a working system.
It's not that we can't get close to each other anymore.