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Oh, nonsense! There's no significant difference in fuel consumption for engines that are in good working order; it's all within the measurement tolerance. It's ridiculous to swear allegiance to one brand or another, and that belongs to the realm of esotericism.

Even RME (Rapeseed Methyl Ester) falls within the measurement tolerance range compared to various diesel types in my tests, despite having a demonstrably lower calorific value!

But everyone gets what they deserve. It probably also has something to do with religion. It's just about the heelix' sheet metal .

Übrigens, bals haben ALLE Marken ein gemeinsames Additiv: gesetzlich 5% RME-Beimischung. Für manche sicher schon Gotteslästerung (das Zeugs steht ja mit dem Leibhaftigen im Bunde).

Subject: Lupo 1.7 SDI: 8L more with the 'nipple method'. However, it's time-consuming . It's worth it though, because my RME fuel tank () is located far away.

WIe gesagt ich weiss weder den Waermeausdehnungskoeffizienten von Diesel, noch von Kunststoff.

Hello, here is the coefficient of thermal expansion for polypropylene: (x10-6 K-1) 100-180.

Best regards,
René

@kenny,

I think I need to correct you regarding the cetane number.

Quote from the ARAL page: 'The minimum cetane number currently required is 51 (EU standard 590).' http://www.aral-forschung.de/forschung/homepage/kraftstoffe/dieselkraftstoffe/superdiesel.html)

So, 51 and not 45... But okay... they are probably just minor things...

Hi,
Does anyone know if there is such a fitting, and if so, where it is located, on the Audi 100/A6 C4?
Being able to fill the 80L tank at the truck fuel pump (even if it's dispensing gasoline meant for cars) would be something.

'When I filled up my A6, only 3 liters went in, but I was in a hurry and the gas station was crowded.'
I'll try to be more patient next time.

Wozu braucht man ein paar Liter mehr. Kauft euch ein sparsames Auto.
'Recently, I drove my 2.5 TDI for 1042 km in one go through Scandinavia without having to refuel. When I finally reached my destination, the onboard computer still indicated a range of 60 km. The average fuel consumption was 6.3 liters, with an average speed of 112 km/h.'

Unique and distinct, solely due to the few additives that are subsequently mixed in!

absolutely. This has been mentioned several times here.


Well, the question is whether or not you actually need those additives...

Okay... if the diesel fuel meets the relevant DIN standards, you don't need to add anything. However, diesel fuel that meets those standards already contains additives.
Each brand's own additive further enhances the overall effect. I've tried 6 different brands. For example, Aral produces the least amount of foam and also has a pleasant smell (they add 'fragrance oil'). The 'no-name' brand, on the other hand, works incredibly well, produces a lot of smoke, and creates a significant amount of foam.
Therefore, refueling is the fastest at Aral.


And the engine is lubricated anyway by the oil.

The engine itself... but the entire fuel injection system is lubricated by diesel. This applies whether it's a VP, PD, or CR system. That's why heating oil is problematic, because aside from the cetane number (which isn't really relevant for heating oil), it lacks many other important properties.

By the way: Bosch explicitly allows up to 5% rapeseed methyl ester (RME), but no more!

@rainer:
ich erwähne es immer wieder gerne: ich hab mich beim tanken an der noname mit dem tankerfahrer unterhalten, als der benzintank voll war. er flucht, weil er noch 3000l benzin im sonst leeren tanker hat. müsste er mit zurückfahren und als tankreinigung für teuer geld entsorgen. also lässt ers zu den 12000l diesel reinlaufen. fertig....
Back then, I was still driving an old, clunky car (tm). It always smelled like rotten eggs when I filled it with generic gasoline. It didn't smell that way when I used branded gasoline...

CU Gremlin.

20% gasoline in the diesel? That's quite a lot . The lubricating properties are certainly not the best in that case. The solution: Add another 10% vegetable oil, and the mixture will be as thick as it was before .

20% gasoline in the diesel? That's quite a lot . The lubricating properties are certainly not the best in that case. The solution: Add another 10% vegetable oil, and the mixture will be as thick as it was before .

Sorry, aber meinen Chemiebaukasten nehme ich leider nicht zur Tanke mit. Tanken sollte ja eben nicht zur Wissenschaft werden, sonst treffe ich bald nur noch Studierte an der Tankstelle.

However, tests from independent institutions consistently show the same thing. Whether it's ARAL or a lesser-known brand, if the drivers don't properly verschandeln the tanks before refueling, you'll only get a mixed, low-quality fuel. It's similar to what Gremlin described above.
I'm actually traveling all over Germany and filling up at various brand-name gas stations. So far, I've never noticed that my car has been emitting more or less smoke. I think some people are interpreting things (too) much.

The only thing that always really caught my attention was the fuel consumption display on the MFA/FIS whenever it was switched back to winter diesel. Interestingly, the ALH engine reacted to this with even more increased fuel consumption than my current AWX engine.

Wir tanken schon immer an der Kaufland Tanke. Spritverbrauch ist normal. Das gepanscht wird, kann genauso an der normalen Tanke passieren. Einspritzdüsen sind am Arsch, keine Ahnung weshalb, ich werde mal so einen Dieselreiniger ausprobieren. Werde weiterhin an der Tanke tanken. Habe mal eine tolle Aussage gelesen: Der Prit ist derselbe, der Tabkwagen ebenfalls, die Additive sind die gleichen, nur die Schilder werden gewechselt. That sounds plausible.

Best regards, WarLord.

I want to revisit this old topic: My rolling storage container has very little extra space for the fuel tank. The plastic tank is shaped like a flat suitcase. There's a ventilation opening at the top of the fuel filler, which is connected to a hose fitting on the tank via a rubber hose reinforced with fabric. However, this fitting is also barely higher than the fuel filler itself.

Without the "no-fill" restriction on the fuel tank, the 206's tank can be filled at a truck fuel pump in approximately 1.5 minutes. However, it's important to stay with the car and be aware that the fuel nozzles at truck pumps are generally not as sensitive as those at car fuel stations, and they also don't shut off as early. The foam brake system used for truck diesel, which seems to be effective at most gas stations, is naturally very convenient for me if there's a dedicated tank for it.

To really fill the tank to the brim, I have to reach up to the roof of the vehicle towards the end of the filling process and shake it a bit. The air bubble that was previously in the tank is released with a loud gurgling sound, and then another 2 to 3 liters can fit up to the top edge of the filler pipe. So, the expansion reserve doesn't seem to be very large. I have the tank of the "éco" models, which has a capacity of 60 liters. This is enough for a range of 1200 to 1400 kilometers.