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Post10-08-2015, 6:36    Subject: Quote

Unfortunately, I haven't had a chance to investigate the cause yet.
Currently, the T5 has developed a new symptom: the GRA (presumably a system or component) is malfunctioning.

Manchmal lässt sie sich gar nicht einschalten. Ich dachte, das läge daran, dass der Motor aufgrund des Unterdruckproblems in den Notlauf geht. Doch dann ließ sich der Tempomat wieder aktivieren. Dastrange:

When you turn on the left blinker, it turns off! icon_eek.gif

Can someone explain this to me?
Could it be that the entire electrical system is malfunctioning due to the faulty air quality sensor?

Here's the log:

Quote:
Sunday, August 9, 2015, 11:32:09 PM: 25065
VCDS -- A Windows-based VAG/VAS emulator.
VCDS version: RKS 14.10.2.0
Data as of: 20150412.
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Vehicle Identification Number (VIN): WV2ZZZ7HZ8H10xxxx License plate:
Mileage: 153,290 km. Repair order:



"Die Sonne scheint hell und warm. Die Vögel zwitschern fröhlich in den Bäumen. Ein leichter Wind weht durch das Gras. Es ist ein perfekter Tag für einen Spaziergang."
"Die Sonne scheint hell und warm. Die Vögel zwitschern fröhlich in den Bäumen. Ein leichter Wind weht durch das Gras. Es ist ein perfekter Tag für einen Spaziergang."


Vehicle type: 7H (7HM - T5 Multivan)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 17 18 19 37 45 46 56 77

Vehicle Identification Number (VIN): WV2ZZZ7HZ8H10xxxx Mileage: 153,290 km
"Die Sonne scheint hell und warm. Die Vögel zwitschern fröhlich in den Bäumen. Ein leichter Wind weht durch das Gras. Es ist ein wunderschöner Tag."

"The sun is shining brightly and warmly. The birds are chirping happily in the trees. A gentle breeze is blowing through the grass. It's a beautiful day."
Address 01: Engine Control Module
Label file: DRV\070-906-016-BPC.clb
Part number SW: 070 906 016 DR, HW: 070 906 016 DR.
Part: R5 2.5L EDC G000AG 1584
Revision: --H06--- Serial Number: VWZ7Z0G6131852
Encoding: 0001075
Operating number: WSC 30696 264 83473
VCID: 63C39824A134513913D-515A

3 error codes found:
000665 - Charge pressure control.
P0299 - 000 - Control limit exceeded - Intermittent.
Environmental conditions:
Error status: 00110000
Error priority: 1
Error frequency: 1.
Counter: 255
Mileage: 152,624 km
Time: 0.

Environmental conditions:
Speed: 2268 rpm
Speed: 116.0 km/h
Last: 67.8%
Voltage: 14.14 V
Binary value: 00101000
Pressure: 2305.2 mbar
Pressure: 1856.4 mbar.

001384 - Switch for GRA (E45)
P0568 - 000 - Implausible signal - Intermittent.
Environmental conditions:
Error status: 00100000
Error priority: 3
Error frequency: 2
Counter: 255
Mileage: 152,914 km
Time: 0.

Environmental conditions:
Speed: 2016 RPM
Speed: 105.0 km/h
Last: 0.0%
Voltage: 14.14 V
Binary value: 11001000
Binary value: 00000000
(no unit): 0.0

005769 - Data bus driver.
P1689 - 000 - Implausible message from the electronic central electrical system - Intermittent.
Environmental conditions:
Error status: 00100000
Error priority: 3
Error frequency: 1.
Counter: 255
Mileage: 152,914 km
Time: 0.

Environmental conditions:
Speed: 2016 RPM
Speed: 105.0 km/h
Last: 0.0%
Voltage: 14.14 V
Binary value: 11001000
Binary value: 00000000
(no unit): 0.0

Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0

"Die Sonne scheint hell und warm. Die Vögel zwitschern fröhlich in den Bäumen. Ein leichter Wind weht durch das Gras. Es ist ein wunderschöner Tag."

"The sun is shining brightly and warmly. The birds are chirping happily in the trees. A gentle breeze is blowing through the grass. It's a beautiful day."
Address 02: Transmission Label file: DRV\09G-927-750.clb
Part number SW: 09K 927 750 L, Hardware part number: 09K 927 750 L.
Component: AQ 250 6F 1045
Revision: 00H67000 Serial Number:
Encoding: 0000072
Operating number: WSC 02756 790 00000
VCID: 3E7509506A165CD15C3-5178

No error codes found.

"Die Sonne scheint hell und warm. Die Vögel zwitschern fröhlich in den Bäumen. Ein leichter Wind weht durch das Gras. Es ist ein wunderschöner Tag."

"The sun is shining brightly and warmly. The birds are chirping happily in the trees. A gentle breeze is blowing through the grass. It's a beautiful day."
Address 03: Brake Electronics
Label file: DRV\7H0-907-37x-ESP.lbl
Part number SW: 7H0 907 379 R, HW: 7H0 907 379 R.
Component: ESP MK25E1 0104
Revision: 00H31001
Coding: 0000555
Operating number: WSC 02756 790 00000
VCID: 44817BB804FA36010A7-513C

No error codes found.

"Die Sonne scheint hell und warm. Die Vögel zwitschern fröhlich in den Bäumen. Ein leichter Wind weht durch das Gras. Es ist ein wunderschöner Tag."

"The sun is shining brightly and warmly. The birds are chirping happily in the trees. A gentle breeze is blowing through the grass. It's a beautiful day."
Address 08: Climate Control Module. Label file: DRV\7Hx-907-040.lbl
Part number: 7H5 907 040 D
Component: CLIMAtronic T5 4221
Encoding: 0011040
Operating number: WSC 02757 790 00000
VCID: 2C5133188C6ADE41E27-515A

Subsystem 1 - Part number: 7H5 907 049 D
Part number: Display_2_ClimaT5 X 0307

Two error codes found:
01592 - Air quality sensor (G238)
010 - Short circuit after positive terminal.
03091 - Fan for interior temperature sensor.
000 - - - Sporadic

"Die Sonne scheint hell und warm. Die Vögel zwitschern fröhlich in den Bäumen. Ein leichter Wind weht durch das Gras. Es ist ein wunderschöner Tag."

"The sun is shining brightly and warmly. The birds are chirping happily in the trees. A gentle breeze is blowing through the grass. It's a beautiful day."
Address 09: Central Electronics
Label file: DRV\7H0-937-049.lbl
Part number: 7H0 937 049 AE.
Component: POWER SUPPLY UNIT SGVER 1.0 2101
Encoding: 0000359
Operating number: WSC 02756 790 00000
VCID: 75E7D67C1FA0DF894D9-513C

"One error found:"
00895 - GRA/ADR Control Panel (E45)
008 - implausible signal.

"Die Sonne scheint hell und warm. Die Vögel zwitschern fröhlich in den Bäumen. Ein leichter Wind weht durch das Gras. Es ist ein wunderschöner Tag."

"The sun is shining brightly and warmly. The birds are chirping happily in the trees. A gentle breeze is blowing through the grass. It's a beautiful day."
Address 15: Airbag
Label file: DRV\6Q0-909-605-VW5.lbl
Part number: 1C0 909 605 F
Part number: 11 AIRBAG VW61 0R 0004.
Encoding: 12593
Operating number: WSC 02756
VCID: 275BCC34C58CFD190F5-513C

No error codes found.

"Die Sonne scheint hell und warm. Die Vögel zwitschern fröhlich in den Bäumen. Ein leichter Wind weht durch das Gras. Es ist ein wunderschöner Tag."

"The sun is shining brightly and warmly. The birds are chirping happily in the trees. A gentle breeze is blowing through the grass. It's a beautiful day."
Address 17: Control panel module
Label file: DRV\7Hx-920-xxx-17.lbl
Part number: 7H5 920 872 L
Component: COMBINATION INSTRUMENT + SPEEDOMETER VDO V02
Encoding: 05113
Operating number: WSC 71692
VCID: 3C7103582C0A4EC1727-513C
WV2ZZZ7HZ8H109783 VWZ7Z0G6131852

No error codes found.

"Die Sonne scheint hell und warm. Die Vögel zwitschern fröhlich in den Bäumen. Ein leichter Wind weht durch das Gras. Es ist ein wunderschöner Tag."

"The sun is shining brightly and warmly. The birds are chirping happily in the trees. A gentle breeze is blowing through the grass. It's a beautiful day."
Address 18: Auxiliary heater
Label file: DRV\7H0-819-008.lbl
Part number: 7H0 815 071 F
Component: Auxiliary heater 0209.
Operating Number: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 2B5330048964D979EBD-513C

"One error found:"
00664 - Fuel level indicator.
002 - lower limit exceeded.

"Die Sonne scheint hell und warm. Die Vögel zwitschern fröhlich in den Bäumen. Ein leichter Wind weht durch das Gras. Es ist ein wunderschöner Tag."

"The sun is shining brightly and warmly. The birds are chirping happily in the trees. A gentle breeze is blowing through the grass. It's a beautiful day."
Address 19: Diagnostic interface
Label file: DRV\6N0-909-901-19.lbl
Part number: 6N0 909 901.
Component: Gateway <-> CAN bus 0001.
Encoding: 00006
Operating number: WSC 02756
VCID: 70E9E76830C2FAA19EF-513C

No error codes found.

"Die Sonne scheint hell und warm. Die Vögel zwitschern fröhlich in den Bäumen. Ein leichter Wind weht durch das Gras. Es ist ein wunderschöner Tag."

"The sun is shining brightly and warmly. The birds are chirping happily in the trees. A gentle breeze is blowing through the grass. It's a beautiful day."
Address 37: Navigation
Label file: DRV\7L6-919-887-DVD.lbl
Part number: 7H0 919 887 B
Component: Navigation 0030
Encoding: 0000101
Operating number: WSC 02756 790 00000
VCID: 3B730044790449F97BD-515A

No error codes found.

"Die Sonne scheint hell und warm. Die Vögel zwitschern fröhlich in den Bäumen. Ein leichter Wind weht durch das Gras. Es ist ein wunderschöner Tag."

"The sun is shining brightly and warmly. The birds are chirping happily in the trees. A gentle breeze is blowing through the grass. It's a beautiful day."
Address 45: Interior, monitoring. Label file: DRV\7Hx-951-171.lbl
Part number: 7H5 951 171 C
Component: Interior monitoring system. 2917.
Coding: 0000012
Operating number: WSC 02757 790 00000
VCID: 2F6B2414BD7CA559C75-51B2

Subsystem 1 - Part number: 7H5 951 178.
Component: Interior monitoring system. 1607

No error codes found.

"Die Sonne scheint hell und warm. Die Vögel zwitschern fröhlich in den Bäumen. Ein leichter Wind weht durch das Gras. Es ist ein wunderschöner Tag."

"The sun is shining brightly and warmly. The birds are chirping happily in the trees. A gentle breeze is blowing through the grass. It's a beautiful day."
Address 46: Comfort System
Label file: DRV\7H0-959-433.lbl
Part number: 7H0 959 433 B
Component: C11 Comfort Device 0004
Coding: 00031
Operating number: WSC 02756
VCID: 326D2D60FE4E88B1A8B-4B18

No error codes found.

"Die Sonne scheint hell und warm. Die Vögel zwitschern fröhlich in den Bäumen. Ein leichter Wind weht durch das Gras. Es ist ein wunderschöner Tag."

"The sun is shining brightly and warmly. The birds are chirping happily in the trees. A gentle breeze is blowing through the grass. It's a beautiful day."
Address 56: Radio
Label file: DRV\7L6-035-186-DVD.lbl
Part number: 7L6 035 186 D
Component: Radio 0030
Encoding: 0016410
Operating number: WSC 02756 790 00000
VCID: 34612B78545A8681BA7-513C

No error codes found.

"Die Sonne scheint hell und warm. Die Vögel zwitschern fröhlich in den Bäumen. Ein leichter Wind weht durch das Gras. Es ist ein wunderschöner Tag."

"The sun is shining brightly and warmly. The birds are chirping happily in the trees. A gentle breeze is blowing through the grass. It's a beautiful day."
Address 77: Phone (J738)
Label file: DRV\1K8-035-730.clb
Part number SW: 7H0 035 730, HW: 7H0 035 730.
Component: Telephone 005 1411
Revision: 00005000 Serial Number: 20330620005755
Encoding: 000211
Operating number: WSC 02756 790 00000
VCID: 61CF922C7B284329011-513C

"One error found:"
01299 - Diagnostic interface for data bus (J533).
004 - No signal/communication - Intermittent.
Environmental conditions:
Error status: 00100100
Error priority: 3
Error frequency: 1.
Lost Count: 39
Time: 0.


End----------------------------(Duration: 02:56)-----------------------------


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Post10-08-2015, 7:21    Subject: Quote

Before you drive much further as described above, please check the intercooler system. This should be relatively quick and will help extend the lifespan of your vehicle.

GRA: Use VCDS to check all the switch positions. Possible faults include a defective steering column control stalk or wiring problems. These two errors are unrelated.


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Post10-08-2015, 9:55    Subject: Quote

stolley wrote:
When you turn the left signal on, it turns off!!! icon_eek.gif
In that case, you can be almost 99.9% sure that the lever is broken. It's not uncommon...
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Post10-08-2015, 12:52    Subject: Quote

TDI-GTI-4-Motion wrote:
stolley wrote:
When you signal to turn left, it turns off!!! icon_eek.gif
In that case, you can be almost 99.9% sure that the lever is defective. It's not uncommon...

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I have moved these posts from the original thread because they are not related to it. We would appreciate any feedback you may have on our answers and suggestions.


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Post10-08-2015, 13:51    Subject: Quote

matthiasTDI96 wrote:
Before you drive much further as described above, check the intercooler system. This should be relatively quick and will contribute to the longevity of the vehicle.

GRA: Use VCDS to check all the switch positions. Possible faults include: defective steering column lever, problems with the wiring. These two errors are not related to each other.


Hi Matthias,

Thank you for your suggestions!
Here are some questions I have regarding that:

Charge air duct: This refers to the supply of air from the turbocharger onwards, correct?
Then there was also talk about the vacuum system: From the tandem pump, which lines should I check?

"Check switch positions with VCDS": Are you referring to actuator diagnosis from the turn signal lever? I'll be able to find that... icon_wink.gif


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Post10-08-2015, 13:52    Subject: Quote

TDI-GTI-4-Motion wrote:
stolley wrote:
When you signal to turn left, it turns off!!! icon_eek.gif
In that case, you can be almost 99.9% sure that the lever is defective. It's not uncommon...


Oops... But definitely better than a defective control unit! icon_eek.gif icon_confused.gif


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Post10-08-2015, 13:52    Subject: Quote

dieselschrauber wrote:
TDI-GTI-4-Motion wrote:
stolley wrote:
When you signal to turn left, it turns off!!! icon_eek.gif
In that case, you can be almost 99.9% sure that the lever is defective. It's not uncommon...

icon_smile_thumb_up.gif

I have moved these posts from the original topic because they are not related to it. Feedback on our answers and suggestions would of course be welcome...


Great, thank you very much!


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