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Post08-07-2004, 9:47    Subject: Automatic malfunction Quote

icon_sad.gif Hello, everyone!!
My Passat 35i Variant, manufactured in 1996 (TDI/81kW), unfortunately has an automatic transmission problem. I no longer have any power, and if it moves at all, it only goes a few meters and then stops. According to VW, the problem is not with the control unit, as it has been diagnosed. The car was previously making a slightly 'whining' noise. Now, all the dealers are telling me that I need a completely new automatic transmission, which would cost me over €3000. According to VW, a repair is not worthwhile, and these repairs are often not reliable in the long run.
Can someone tell me something about that?
Does everything really need to be exchanged?
I need everything you have, because this 'Teuro' thing is starting to get annoying. icon_evil.gif

best regards mabumeti[/sup]


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Post08-07-2004, 10:54    Subject: Automatic malfunction Quote

What I'm suggesting, and what everyone in the 35i community would likely advise, is to convert it to manual. Cheaper and more reliable.

Best regards, WarLord.


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Post08-07-2004, 11:27    Subject: Repairing vending machines Quote

@ Warlord - Sorry, but comments like 'throw it away' or 'rebuild it' don't really help someone who's having a problem.

@mabumeti

There are various companies that specialize in the repair of vending machines. Take a look on the internet.

http://www.fahrzeugtechnik-hetzel.de/
http://www.automatikgetriebe.de/
http://www.automatikgetriebe.com
http://www.getriebe-reparaturen.de/
http://www.automatikgetriebe-ersatzteile.de/

Or a whole list: http://www.exploristen.de/technik/werkstatt.htm

I have no experience with any of them, but I think it's worth a try.

Whoever manufactures your gearboxes should have a testing facility for them.
Okay, so we'll take it apart, put it on a pallet, and ship it off. Repairing it is definitely cheaper than replacing it.

How many kilometers did you drive? Was it somehow foreshadowed?

Please provide the text you would like me to translate from German to English.


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Post08-07-2004, 13:14    Subject: Automatic defect 2 Quote

icon_smile.gif thank you for the quick reply!!
The car used to whine (quietly) like an electric motor.
Then, when it was under load, it was only spinning freely. Oh, and the mileage was 151,000 km.
If the repair becomes too expensive, I would be very interested in converting it to a manual transmission.
I'm not really sure exactly what I need for this, so I could use your help. Building it shouldn't be a problem.
I will definitely report on how things progress. Thank you icon_biggrin.gif.
hello mabumeti

P.S. to War Lord.
I would have preferred a manual transmission, but you can't have everything. The rest of the car is really great, so I ended up buying the automatic version. Oh well...


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Post08-07-2004, 13:50    Subject: Automation Quote

Hi mabusowieso

I searched for a long time until I found my A4 with an automatic transmission.
I find the combination of automatic transmission and torque to be simply awesome.

The problem is that we both have the AG4 machine. It's over 15 years old, and it's been unreliable from the beginning. I actually knew about this machine from a previous job at VW (back in 1991!). The production volumes were homeopathic, and the line in Kassel only operated for about 1-2 hours per day, yet half a dozen people were still working on repairing the new transmissions.

'Why do I have one of those? Well, I had no idea that this particular transmission (modified) was still being installed in 1998. A seller had convinced me that it was completely new.' The realization came to me only when I read the transmission data using VAGCOM.


'However, these AG4 units typically last for 250,000 km. A failure at 150 km is not normal. Yours probably doesn't have the lifetime lubrication yet, does it?' Has the oil change been done regularly? (Does the maintenance manual specify a transmission oil change?)


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Post08-07-2004, 19:18    Subject: Automatic malfunction Quote

So, the taxi drivers all encouraged me, but none of them want to drive the Tip 5.

They are all convinced that the AG4 is great because it is so robust.

It's important to check the oil level, even though it might seem silly, and to investigate the cause of any irregularities, even if they seem minor.

CU Gremlin.


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Post09-07-2004, 11:36    Subject: re automatic malfunction Quote

icon_biggrin.gif thank you again,
I have no idea what kind of automatic transmission is in it.
A friend of mine uses the car as a taxi, and he's had this problem three times already, even though the car has been regularly serviced at a VW dealership. (It now has 300,000 km on the odometer.)

My car was only serviced at independent workshops by the previous owner after 75,000 kilometers.
I can't say for sure whether they did everything. I doubt it.

I will keep you updated on how things are progressing here and what happened.
hello mabumeti


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Post19-07-2004, 16:00    Subject: Automatic transmission repaired!!! Quote

Okay, here I am again, with some news.
It seems the seal on the pump was leaking, which prevented the necessary oil pressure from being built up.
According to gear specialist Reiner, it is normal wear and tear.
The reason the clutch plates are burnt out is due to the problem mentioned earlier.
It's all happening gradually and initially unnoticed, until it's too late. icon_mad.gif
I had the transmission repaired at a specialized shop in Berlin, and I paid icon_cry.gif 1800€.
That really hurt. But I got everything that was inside replaced with new parts. I saw the parts that were removed. Even the engine control unit was replaced. Whether that was the right thing to do is something I'm not going to worry about for now, since I can't check it myself. My car is running, and I hope things are quiet now.
greetings mabumeti and thank you again!!!! icon_biggrin.gif icon_confused.gif


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