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Post04-08-2004, 22:53    Subject: Quote


sollte keine haben.... noch nicht passiert???? icon_cool.gif

*lol* The car has only been down for 2 hours. I'm still drinking my (christening/baptismal) beer...

When a ship is christened, a bottle of champagne is smashed against the hull. icon_razz.gif


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Post05-08-2004, 7:27    Subject: Quote

joergs wrote:
....wenn ein schiff getauft wird, wird ne flasche schampus gegen den rumpf gehauen........ icon_razz.gif


... Ouch, that will leave such unsightly marks on the (car) body icon_mrgreen.gif.

The ATD has a regulated EGR (Exhaust Gas Recirculation) system, but it does not have a regulated water cooling system for it.
Since the ATD is an EU3 model, I would say that it doesn't recognize a "faulty" EGR valve.


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Auf ins Abenteuer Pumpe Düse...


So jetzt Pumpt die Düse auch bei DocSnydor .... icon_mrgreen.gif

PD engines are better than their reputation suggests. The AJM engine, which was rushed onto the market, caused a lot of problems.
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Post05-08-2004, 7:59    Subject: Quote

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The PD engines are better than their reputation suggests. The AJM, which was rushed onto the market, caused a lot of damage.

With that hope in mind, I also bought my Polo. It seems it still pays off to not actively participate in the "banana phase" of new technologies and vehicle models (where they are maturing for customers), but rather to wait and see first icon_twisted.gif.

Tomorrow evening, we are planning to start our vacation with the help of the ASZ (presumably a local organization or service).
I'm curious to see the long-distance fuel consumption... If everything goes according to plan, I'll be offline until around the end of August.

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Der ATD hat zwar eine geregelte AGR, aber keine geregelte Wasserkühlung dafür.

What do you mean by "regulated EGR"? Are you referring to the "old" principle with the mass airflow sensor (MAF) as a feedback device?

And what exactly does the German Road Traffic Regulations (StVZO) regulate regarding water cooling systems?
Is there possibly a solenoid valve somewhere that controls the water flow and is controlled by the ECU (Engine Control Unit)?
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Post05-08-2004, 8:25    Subject: Quote

Subject: Timing belt - Here's the response to my inquiry directly from Volkswagen:
Ref. No.: VW-2004/08-000821



Dear Mr. Snydor,

Thank you for your inquiry.

The timing belt replacement is required for the 1.9L / 74 kW TDI engine (engine code: ...).
For all Golf Variants with ATD engines, including models up to and including the 2003 model year, maintenance is required every 90,000 km.
vorgesehen. Gleichzeitig ist der Tausch der Spannrolle erforderlich. From
Modelljahr 2004 konnte das Intervall auf 120.000 km erhoeht werden. The
The tensioner roller needs to be replaced only every 240,000 kilometers in these models.
required.

The tenth digit of the vehicle identification number (VIN) indicates the model year.
Example 3 = 2003 or 4 = 2004.

For any further questions or suggestions, please do not hesitate to contact us.
available at any time.

Best regards,

i.V. Bernd Schmitter i.V. Katja Schott.

Volkswagen AG.
38436 Wolfsburg.
Phone: +49 (0) 800 8655792436
Fax: +49 (0) 221 9839 2199
Email to: dialogcenter@volkswagen.de
Homepage http://www.volkswagen.de


@Ulf: I wish you a wonderful vacation!


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Post05-08-2004, 9:08    Subject: Quote

ulf wrote:
... With that hope in mind, I also bought my Polo...

... wenn du aus dem Urlaub kommst erzähle ich dir mal mehr über den 9N .... icon_mrgreen.gif
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Tomorrow evening, we are planning to start our vacation with the help of the ASZ (presumably a local organization or service).

Beautiful free spaces...
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Der ATD hat zwar eine geregelte AGR, aber keine geregelte Wasserkühlung dafür.

What do you mean by "regulated EGR"? Are you referring to the "old" principle with the mass airflow sensor (MAF) as a feedback device?

Yes, among other things.
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And what exactly does the German Road Traffic Regulations (StVZO) regulate regarding water cooling systems?
Sitzt da womöglich irgendwo ein Magnetventil für den Wasserdurchfluß, das von der EDC angesteuert wird?

Almost got it!

Not a solenoid valve directly, but pneumatics controlled via a solenoid valve.

In the pneumatic system, where the ATD controls the shut-off valve, the AXR regulates the water cooling for the EGR (Exhaust Gas Recirculation) system. The AXR uses an electric shut-off/throttle valve for this purpose.
Gruß Bertil

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Post05-08-2004, 12:12    Subject: Quote

Bertil wrote:
... wenn du aus dem Urlaub kommst erzähle ich dir mal mehr über den 9N .... {icon_mrgreen.gif}

I'm already aware that it's somewhat unreliable... for example:
http://www.polo9n.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=5007
...and the rumbling sound from the transmission when coasting is still there, but that seems to be more of a problem with the gearbox itself.

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Using pneumatics, where the ATD controls the shut-off valve, the AXR regulates the water cooling for the EGR system. For this purpose, the AXR has an electric shut-off/throttle valve.

...and possibly also the standard EGR solenoid valve including the diaphragm valve located between the intake and exhaust manifolds?

So, we need 3 actuators to cultivate the oil soot sludge in the intake manifold under precisely controlled conditions new_tomato.gif.
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Post05-08-2004, 12:18    Subject: Quote

ulf wrote:
Bertil wrote:
... wenn du aus dem Urlaub kommst erzähle ich dir mal mehr über den 9N .... {icon_mrgreen.gif}

I'm already aware that it's somewhat unreliable... for example:

Nöööööö, das hab ich nicht gemeint. Du besitzt einen Kleintwagen mit der Elektronikstruktur des VW D1 (Phaeton). Die funktioniert da schon nicht besonders gut icon_eek.gif .... also ein echtes Bananenprodukt ..... icon_evil.gif
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Using pneumatics, where the ATD controls the shut-off valve, the AXR regulates the water cooling for the EGR system. For this purpose, the AXR has an electric shut-off/throttle valve.

...and possibly also the standard EGR solenoid valve including the diaphragm valve located between the intake and exhaust manifolds?

Functionally, yes, but mechanically completely different due to the altered exhaust system.
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So, we need 3 actuators to cultivate the oil-soot sludge in the intake manifold under precisely controlled conditions new_tomato.gif
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Wenn du meinst .... Yes.
I've never seen so little oil sludge buildup in a TDI intake manifold as I did with the AXR engine.
Gruß Bertil

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Post05-08-2004, 15:59    Subject: Quote

Bertil wrote:
You own a small car with the electronic structure of the VW D1 (Phaeton). That doesn't work very well there... icon_eek.gif... so it's really a "banana product"... icon_evil.gif

Yes, with CAN communication back and forth icon_evil.gif. . .
I just hope that at least the most obvious flaws were corrected since the start of production of the 9N in 2002 (?). And I hope that my "minimal electronics" course will help to minimize the frustration over the years.

So far, he hasn't caused any trouble...
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