Auxiliary heating - glow plugs or similar.

Hello,

I have a SEAT Leon TDI with 110 horsepower, and I've noticed that...
even now, the box isn't getting warm - it will.
My first winter with it!!!!!

Now I've done some reading and realized that...
that my LEON has the auxiliary heater - glow plugs or whatever they're called.
'Auch immer' translates to 'whatever it may be' or 'no matter what.' 'Nicht besitzt' translates to 'does not own' or 'does not possess.' Do I need this for it to get warm?
Are these things no longer needed?
'That's what my dealer claims, at least!'

Do you have any tips?

Thank you.
Olli.

OlliP wrote:

Now I have done some reading and realized that my LEON has the auxiliary heater - glow plugs or whatever they're called. "auch immer" means "whatever".

"nicht besitzt" means "does not own".


Hi Olli,

That surprises me a bit... AFAIK, only the first generation of TDI engines lacked glow plugs, but the Leon seems too new for that.

Quote:

Have you carefully checked in the engine compartment --> specifically, the hot water hose running from the engine towards the heater? Reading the operating manual is useless because it doesn't contain any information about it (at best, it might tell you where the fuse is located), since the whole process is fully automatic.

Do I need them for it to get warm?
Are these things no longer needed?
!!!That's what my dealer claims, at least!!!

With that, it will only get slightly warmer.
Of course, it's also possible to do without it, so your dealer is right again.

Hi Olli,

If your current heating system is not providing enough heat, I recommend installing a separate heater or an electric auxiliary heater (e.g., CALIX, see Rainer's homepage). You can find more information at [url][/url], then on the English version. Go to the "Flag" section and then to "Products" -> "Engine Preheaters". Enter your car details.http://www.calix.se{MARKER}

I found a motorcycle oil warmer and would like to know if anyone has experience with it. Link: [link]

http://nerace.com/miva/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=NRCP&Product_Code=23980&Category_Code=MOR-O

or an oil pan heater pad?

http://nerace.com/miva/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=NRCP&Product_Code=23995&Category_Code=MOR-O

Just for information: My 1.9 PD ATD engine also doesn't have glow plugs. Is the PTC (Positive Temperature Coefficient) heater element located directly in front of the heater core in the Fabia?
According to the parts catalog, whether this auxiliary heater is installed in the TDI engine depends on the equipment level. It is controlled using the same relays for high and low heating power (J359/J360).
Perhaps your solution is also unconventional...
Stay cheerful.
OlBe.

Hi Olbe,

Ah... so that would be another option.

Hmm... I don't have glow plug heating in my Ibiza either, but I can't really complain about how quickly it warms up.

On the other hand, nothing clicks when I activate the relevant relays via diagnostics, and, more importantly, the light doesn't get dimmer, which is what should happen if the heating element is working.

Or would that require the ventilation system to be running during the test?

Best regards,

Jan.

I just read Jan6K's article about oil temperature in winter, and I was also surprised to see that, like Jan6K, my Seat Ibiza also doesn't have glow plugs.
It seems to be a Spanish brand, Seat.

Best regards, D.

Well, it seems Jan6K answered at the same time.
Best regards from Braunschweig, D.

mi15hu wrote:

I found a motorcycle oil pre-heater, and I would like to know if anyone has experience with it. Link: or an oil pan heater pad?

Great, a full 360 watts... that really makes a difference. A parking heater has several kilowatts, while my Calix has 650 watts.

If you read the technical article about CALIX, you'll quickly see that it takes quite a long time to see any results with 650W.

Okay, I'm ready. Please provide the German text you want me to translate.

My Dutch-market Golf also doesn't have a GSH (Gasoline Particulate System), it's a PD 130PS ASZ model.

Hi,

Actually, it's quite logical. Due to the different tax situation, VAG earns less on the cars sold in the Netherlands than it does in Germany, which makes the pressure to save even more pronounced. So, what's closer than simply removing things that don't necessarily need to be there?

Furthermore, the Netherlands is a relatively flat country, and there are few mountains where it might be colder, so the need for heating is also lower.

Even with the Ibiza 6K, the Signo DE and Signo NL models differ in some minor details (aside from major things like airbags or engine options). For example, the Signo in the German market has dampened grab handles, while the one in the Netherlands does not. In Germany, there's a 12V socket in the trunk, but in the Netherlands, there isn't.

The part that Olbetec mentioned is interesting. It might be much easier to retrofit than a glow plug heater. Are there any more details about that?

Best regards,

Jan.

To Bertil! What do you think about adding a few more watts?
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Hi.

So, you don't need to shout, and I'm not blind either...

Well, then! With 455/900 watts, you should be able to achieve something...

It would probably be better to heat the water, as it warms the entire block and head more evenly. The engine oil is heated up along with the water using the water-to-oil heat exchanger.
Or is the engine water-cooled?
Are these parts also available for 220V?
What does a heater like that cost?

Sorry, I just wanted to show my colleagues how things work!

Copy of the email I received!


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HB.

Hello!

Here in the Lupo3l forum, you can take a look at a PTC auxiliary heater.

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Kamil F. even describes the power consumption or wattage.

Best regards,
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