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Post07-10-2007, 10:48    Subject: Spot the Mistake: Find the Error in This Image Quote

It may not be a VW, but it's a turbocharged diesel.

I hope that something can be recognized icon_redface.gif.

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Bitte nutze 'Attachment hinzufügen' bzw. das Upload Forum hier.

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Post07-10-2007, 11:31    Subject: Spot the Mistake: Find the Error in This Image Quote

Hi,

What kind of tiny turbocharger is that, which is supposed to build up a pressure of about 700 mbar at 1220 rpm?
The injection time also seems unrealistic. 1ms at 1220 rpm would correspond to an injection duration of approximately 7° crank angle. And in a common rail engine, the rail pressure wouldn't be particularly high at 1220 rpm either...
What engine are we talking about? Is it a 1.3L CDTI? Is the software original, or has it been modified in some way?
My guess: there are problems here with a tuning file, possibly modified by an inexperienced user. Did I guess correctly? icon_cool.gif

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Post07-10-2007, 12:00    Subject: Spot the Mistake: Find the Error in This Image Quote

What kind of tiny charger is installed there that is supposed to build up a pressure of about 700 mbar at 1220 rpm?

Yes, you can want a lot of things, but what you actually get...
And with a CR engine, the rail pressure at 1220 rpm won't be particularly high either...
Yes, you can have the maximum possible rail pressure at 1220 rpm, but you have to forget to inject fuel, otherwise the rail pressure will unfortunately drop again icon_eek.gif.

My guess is: there are problems with a tuning file, possibly modified by an inexperienced user. Am I right? icon_cool.gif

Yes, I would agree with that as well...

I'm sorry, I probably just had breakfast with a clown, but I took the headline ironically.

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Post07-10-2007, 12:13    Subject: Spot the Mistake: Find the Error in This Image Quote

Watering can tuner icon_lol.gif

is correct icon_redface.gif

The tuning file is from here.

database-for-chiptuning.de/ [Edit Admin Link - added for SEO purposes]

It should be icon_eek.gif 30kw more.

probably more like 3kW icon_rolleyes.gif

ENGINE ---> 2.0 HDI RHW, 80 kW, 270 Nm.
from my Suzuki Grand Vitara XL7.


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Post07-10-2007, 12:22    Subject: Spot the Mistake: Find the Error in This Image Quote

Hi,

aha icon_lol.gif well, there must be a reason why there's no name or address in the "About Us" section on the page or anywhere else icon_cool.gif.
Denic states who operates the server.
http://www.denic.de

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Post07-10-2007, 19:15    Subject: Spot the Mistake: Find the Error in This Image Quote

Here's the whole shebang icon_exclaim.gif icon_exclaim.gif.

http://www.cshare.de/file/762aefb28a64aa55e1607dcb3f87f43d/Ganzseitiger+Faxausdruck?tags=Ganzseitiger+Faxausdruck&lang=de
icon_eek.gif icon_eek.gif icon_eek.gif


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Post07-10-2007, 20:37    Subject: Spot the Mistake: Find the Error in This Image Quote

Hi,

"Did you log the fuel rail pressure? It would be helpful to see how it changed. The injection duration looks really messed up (what does the MAF sensor say?). My engine (same engine, but with 8 fewer valves and a PF version) runs at 1000 rpm with just under 2 milliseconds of injection time, and at 4000 rpm with 1350 bar of pressure, it only uses 750 microseconds."
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Post07-10-2007, 20:47    Subject: Spot the Mistake: Find the Error in This Image Quote

However, there is air mass present, and the rail pressure icon_biggrin.gif is.

Yes, that looks really bad.


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Post07-10-2007, 21:02    Subject: Spot the Mistake: Find the Error in This Image Quote

Michael 111 wrote:
However, there is air mass present, and the fuel rail pressure icon_biggrin.gif is low.

Yes, that looks really bad
.

Ha, now that you mention it icon_redface.gif ... can't see the forest for the trees. I was already wondering what people mean when they talk about "Susi" in that context.
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