Dual-Mass Flywheel: Benefits & Explained

Hello,

I'm having a problem with my clutch (engine code: ASV + gearbox code: EGS) that's making a rattling noise.
Now I'd like to know if a 240mm flywheel with clutch will fit on my car. Otherwise, I would switch to a 228mm flywheel.

I have 0.216 injectors and the engine is tuned, but I had to reduce the power at low RPM (up to 2000 RPM) because of excessive vibration.

If the 240mm clutch doesn't fit, and I were to switch to a 228mm clutch, would that be harmful to the transmission (input shaft + bearings), or could it handle it?

I know that the EMS isn't as comfortable, but I already had a 35 i 1Z, and I didn't find this one to be significantly worse.

I would be grateful for appropriate responses!!!

...a 240mm clutch will not fit into your bell housing.

Look at this: http://www.valeoservice.com/html/deutschland/de/produits.focusdetail.php?wid=8033240644576A5BABBFDC

Thank you in advance for the answers.

So, in this case, the topic of the 240 clutch is closed.

What would happen if I were to switch back to the 228 EMS system?

@BM

Do you know how much the Valeo set costs and how many Nm it can handle?

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@BM Do you know how much the Valeo set costs and how many Nm it can handle?

Unfortunately, no, I only stumbled upon the fact that Valeo offers something like that just yesterday.

@Partial clause

For you, figuring that out shouldn't be a problem.

Enjoy your meal.

Valeo Part Number: 826317

List price: €569 net.

(I'm assuming we're talking about a G4 model from 1997-2000.)


Best regards,
Obelix

You're right, Obelix. The VALEO Premium Kit 826317 costs around €397, plus shipping.
(including VAT)

Valeo News:
Die 228 er überträgt bis 305 NM ist auch in dem 1,8 Turbo verbaut und wird mit keinen oder nur geringen Schwingungsdämpfungseinbußen unter ca 1900 1/ min mit dem EMS verbaut und hält. Bis jetzt keine negative Rückmeldung an den Vertrieb. Lieferbar immediately.
If it ever becomes obsolete, I also have the part number for the kit without the SM, which is a special order number.

Hello.

@ teileklaus

Top price!!!

Okay, I'll sell them to you for 460.- , and also include the Top Valeo Service Info.
But you can also damage an Actros clutch while towing.

@ teileklaus

So, could I combine the Valeo kit (without the SM) with a 228 EMS (G60, VR6, or 1Z) and then install it in my ASV?
If so, what is the cost of the kit without the SM (presumably referring to a specific module or component)?

trebor wrote:

@ partial exam So, could I combine the Valeo kit (without the SM) with a 228 EMS (G60, VR6, or 1Z) and then install it in my ASV? If so, what is the cost of the kit without the SM?

If it's a problem child, take the whole thing, just like that! That's the only way to make sure it lasts.

Edit: The clutch kit without the SM component is €352, minus 40% including VAT, plus shipping.

teileklaus wrote:

trebor wrote: @ partial exam. So, could I combine the Valeo kit (without the SM) with a 228 EMS (G60, VR6, or 1Z) and then install it in my ASV? If so, what is the cost of the kit without the SM? Edit: Only the clutch kit without SM = €352, minus 40%, including VAT, plus shipping

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I'm interested in the clutch kit, but without the flywheel, as I already have a 1Z flywheel installed.
Can you determine if the pressure plate/friction disc is compatible with a genuine VW 1Z flywheel?

Thank you and best regards.
Jens.

Maybe someone has already installed this? Please let me know.

Uuuuhhhhh, what are my old and watery eyes reading???
...why didn't I know anything about it until now? Because I'm ignorant, yes, yes, I know .

FINALLY, a decent alternative solution for everyone who has suffered from (or been healed from? *g*) ZMS - like me *meld*.

@ KlausiMausi, what would the "Premium Kit" from Valeo cost for my T5, manufactured in 2003 (engine code: AXC = 1.9 PD-TDi, 63kW + chip & gearbox code: FJJ = 5-speed manual), and is it even available for this (rather rare...) model?
The Valeo homepage, including the "Online Parts Catalog" (...why does that make me think of ATE? *laugh*) unfortunately offers very little explicit information *sigh*. The US page has more content, but even there, it's difficult to find information for engines with a displacement of less than 5.7 liters .
I'd be happy to send you the exact details via private message if it looks like availability might be good.

Thank you in advance, and greetings from Munich!

DieselBär30x wrote:

Uuuuhhhhh, what are my old and watery eyes reading??? ...why didn't I know anything about it until now? Because I'm ignorant, yes, yes, I know . FINALLY, a decent alternative solution for everyone who has suffered from (or been healed by, *g*) ZMS - like me *meld*. @ KlausiMausi, what would the "Premium Kit" from Valeo cost for my T5, manufactured in 2003 (engine code: AXC = 1.9 PD-TDi, 63kW + chip & gearbox code: FJJ = 5-speed manual), and is it even available for this (rather rare...) model? The Valeo homepage, including the "Online Parts Catalog" (...why does that make me think of ATE? *laugh*) unfortunately offers very little explicit information *sigh*. The US page has more content, but even there, it's difficult to find information for engines with a displacement of less than 5.7 liters . I'd be happy to send you the exact details via private message if it looks like availability might be good. Thank you in advance, and greetings from Munich!

Just slow down with the nicknames, there's also a user named Klausi!

I'm not a Sachs expert, and I'm not sure if this will work with a 1Z flywheel.
The above-mentioned specific application with the specified number is not suitable for every PD motor.
For your T5, I found a Sachs clutch with a 228 mm diameter (part number 3000970017) that can be used, and also a LUK clutch with a 230 mm diameter (SAC?), but it would need to be used with a different flywheel.
Then, under LUK, there's a 230 mm SAC 623308200, and it's possible that this is just a different LUK part number for the same SAC clutch.