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dieselmartin Profi-Schrauber


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11-05-2010, 21:48 Subject: Golf 6, BCM, and Kurven Xenon |
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Hi (Roger)
Do the Xenon lenses also rotate when you attach TFL to the fog lights?
(You know, Saugfuss, Digicam...)
Thank you.
Martin
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20-05-2010, 10:26 Subject: Golf 6, BCM, and Kurven Xenon |
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Hello Martin,
Unfortunately, I don't have a compact camera, and I don't want to entrust my DSLR + lens (> 1kg) to a third-party service. Feel free to stop by and take a look for yourself  .
Furthermore, I only use the turn signal lights when needed (e.g., nighttime driving on country roads) because I didn't want to have to install new SW housings with motors every year. Fortunately, this can be easily activated through MFA+.
Do you expect such an error from BCM?
It's a shame that the fog lights don't have a TĂV approval for TFL (low beam). This isn't due to the fact that they're blinding. Firstly, they were extremely low from the factory, and secondly, with their 35W power, they're so dim that you can't even tell if they're on or off from the driver's seat when using Xenon headlights. Dimming is not necessary for TFL.
A stark example of poverty, that VW couldn't even get LED daytime running lights (except for the R model). However, the first images of Bi-Xenon headlights with a "half" LED ring around the bulb have recently appeared. I am quite sure that they will be installed with the next "product upgrade" in week 45. If the housings didn't cost more than âŹ1k, I would definitely rebuild it.
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20-05-2010, 10:38 Subject: Golf 6, BCM, and Kurven Xenon |
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Well,
Okay, I'm expecting such an error - all 3C0-BNSTG units have this bug.
Maybe we don't even need to film. Torque sensor data blocks should be sufficient.
Film is cool.
I'm really looking forward to the G6+ Poverty-Xenon, which has a G5+ interior, but the turn signals have been "sealed".
Fortunately, the G6-NSWs are reasonably maneuverable, whereas the G5-NSWs offer absolutely no side-to-side turning capability.
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20-05-2010, 10:56 Subject: Golf 6, BCM, and Kurven Xenon |
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Even if I invested a sum of three-digit amounts in these professional-grade camera accessories, my 40D camera still can't film  .
If I ever do those TFL experiments, I'll be thinking of you. Currently, there are more important matters (deadline for 31.05.).
Quote: | | I'm really looking forward to the G6+ Armuts-Xenon, which has a G5+ interior, but the turn signals have been "glued" over. |
How does it work? Do you have any pictures?
Quote: | | Fortunately, the G6-NSW are reasonably maneuverable, while the G5-NSW offer no sideways turning capability. |
Nebulizers that don't project to the side  ?
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20-05-2010, 11:14 Subject: Golf 6, BCM, and Kurven Xenon |
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I have been searching the internet for about 6 months.
None have really good pictures, except maybe:
http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=TsJt0Dr
http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=TsJtd69
That also explains why Xenon cars have fog lights and, therefore, are more expensive.
Turn restrictions: 0 EUR
Nebler as a turning aid: 0 EUR
Nebler therefore included with Xenon: 180 EUR (standard Nebler surcharge)
I specifically drove into a parking garage (dark) during the test drive to assess the visibility of the fog lights when turning.
In our G5, I have configured the fog lights as turn signals (thanks to the MJ08)). But you can't see anything from the light... which is also clear regarding the positioning of the nozzles:
http://graphics.gestionaleauto.com/gonline_graphics/1317322_E_4b82b49be81d8.jpg
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20-05-2010, 11:30 Subject: Golf 6, BCM, and Kurven Xenon |
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dieselmartin wrote: | | In our G5, I have coded the turn signals as indicators (thanks to MJ08). |
When do they turn on?
Tight turning radius?
When turning {LEFT} (= Turn signals)?
And then only when the headlights are switched on?
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20-05-2010, 11:34 Subject: Golf 6, BCM, and Kurven Xenon |
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Similar to the turns in the 3C:
Turn on the lights and drive carefully.
Want to see a video  ?
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20-05-2010, 11:48 Subject: Golf 6, BCM, and Kurven Xenon |
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dieselmartin wrote: | Similar to the turns in the 3C:
Turn on the lights and drive carefully.
Want to see a video ?
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Thank you, but my imagination isn't quite  yet. I've just never really looked into the function, as mine doesn't have it. But with active Xenon headlights, I can't see the fog lights either, so I can just leave them off.
Maybe the nozzles on your GV are also just set too low? I had to turn them up a total of 2 turns... From the factory, the range was approximately 1m  .
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20-05-2010, 11:55 Subject: Golf 6, BCM, and Kurven Xenon |
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Quote: | | Maybe the nozzles on your GV are also set too low? |
I need to check this finally.
So far, I've just bought them new - because both were broken when I received them.
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20-05-2010, 13:00 Subject: Golf 6, BCM, and Kurven Xenon |
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Smashed? Both?? Rockfall?!
And why am I reading 35W? Shouldn't the fog lights have 55W? Standard H7?!
B. t. w.: The fog lights on my 206 were not only set too low, but also completely crooked. On the left, it was almost okay, with a range of about 7-8 meters. However, on the right, it was directly in front of the car. My initial suspicion, during the first drive in the dark with the tried-and-tested fog lights at low beam, was that the right light was defective. But that wasn't the case! The conclusion was that one simply installed the items without any further effort or correction.
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20-05-2010, 13:08 Subject: Golf 6, BCM, and Kurven Xenon |
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Hutfahrer wrote: | Broken? Both?? Rockfall?!
And why am I reading 35W? Shouldn't the fog lights have 55W? Standard H7?! |
That's right. In GTD/GTI, it's H 8 with 35W.
Normal G VI have HB4 with 55W.
Quote: | | The conclusion was that one simply installed the devices without any further effort or correction. |
VW has been doing this for decades, out of tradition. At least every one of my new cars since 1990 had this problem. Parts were thrown onto the assembly line and installed that way. There was no control, neither in the factory, nor during delivery. My Xenon headlights were also much too low again.
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21-05-2010, 6:30 Subject: Golf 6, BCM, and Kurven Xenon |
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Why are 35 W flashlights installed?  Doesn't that result in very little light output?
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21-05-2010, 10:13 Subject: Golf 6, BCM, and Kurven Xenon |
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Hutfahrer wrote: | Why are 35 W flashlights used? Doesn't that result in very little light output? |
These are the questions that the guys in WOB need to ask  . I suspect they were originally intended for use as TFL, but they didn't get approval, and now they're just filling the otherwise empty installation space. The BCM can also easily dim them, for example, to 50%. They certainly look good, I admit  .
In the G VI, a wide range of exotic lighting solutions were introduced. For example, the standard models now have their TFL (Twin Filament Lamp) in the long-range spotlight, which is realized using a 35⏠H15 double filament lamp with 15/55W. The turn signal lamp is a mirrored PSY 24W SV, and is supposedly also available at a similar price range.
Lighting devices, see also:
http://www.michaelneuhaus.de/golf6/golf6-tips.shtml#birnen
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21-05-2010, 13:20 Subject: Golf 6, BCM, and Kurven Xenon |
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