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Post15-01-2011, 3:00    Subject: Non-erasable fault code door control Passat 3C Quote

hi!

First and foremost: I am a (willing to learn) VCDS novice icon_cool.gif.

I have already described my question/problem in the Passat forum, and I have received some help, but unfortunately, it has not led to a final solution, or to the error being cleared as I would have liked.

and namely:

After Autoscan, the following error occurs:

Quote:

"Der schnelle braune Fuchs springt über den faulen Hund."
Address 42: Door electronics. Driver Label file: RKS\1K0-959-701-MAX3.lbl
Part number SW: 1K0 959 701 Q, HW: 1K0 959 793 M.
Part: J386 DOOR-SG FT 1131
Revision: 31008001 Serial Number: 00000507279214
Encoding: 0004343
Operating number: WSC 12336 024 394758
VCID: 3C58634A06ED

Sure, here is the translation of the text from German to English:

"1 error found:"
01044 - Control unit incorrectly coded.
005 - No or incorrect initial settings/adaptation.
Environmental conditions:
Error status: 01100101
Error priority: 6
Error frequency: 1
Lost Count: 29
Mileage: 118,205 km
Time: 0
Date: 2011-01-01
Time: 18:59:42



I could not detect any noticeable functional limitations. All comfort controls are working. Also, the coding is correct. I added the values specified in VCDS according to my equipment and arrived at the same value: "0004343".

"The strange thing is that I can't even change the encoding. I always get the error message 'encoding rejected, error 31: invalid value range'."
This also applies if I want to re-enter and confirm the apparently correct encoding.

Can anyone help me with this?

What else can I do?

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Post15-01-2011, 12:26    Subject: Non-erasable fault code door control Passat 3C Quote

Hello,

"Could you please tell me what you did with the control unit, why you did it, whether it was replaced, etc.? I'm especially interested in knowing what components were installed."

Could you also attach your Coding.log file from the VCDS debug subdirectory?

Because otherwise, without any background information, you could just say "well, the engine control unit icon_rolleyes.gif might not like the coding."

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Post15-01-2011, 18:08    Subject: Non-erasable fault code door control Passat 3C Quote

dieselschrauber wrote:

Please write something about what you did with the control unit, why, whether it was replaced, etc. Especially, what exactly was installed.


I haven't done anything with the engine. However, I've learned that it was replaced by Volkswagen during the time of the previous owner. I don't know why or how. Volkswagen doesn't provide any information about this, and apparently can't even determine the reason. All they know is that it was replaced in December 2009.
What do you mean by "what is included"? Are you referring to features like: electric tailgate switch, electrically folding and heated automatic dimming mirrors, and ambient lighting? Are these the details you're referring to?

dieselschrauber wrote:

Can you also sometimes attach your Coding.log file to the VCDS debug subdirectory?


Sure, if you could kindly tell me where to find it or how to create it, I will post it immediately.

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Post15-01-2011, 20:35    Subject: Non-erasable fault code door control Passat 3C Quote

Sure, if you kindly tell me where to find it or how to create it, I will post it immediately.

Coding.log in the VCDS Debug subdirectory

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Post16-01-2011, 13:28    Subject: Non-erasable fault code door control Passat 3C Quote

Okay, I found it. Do you think this is it? And what can you infer from it?
As I see it, it only shows what I have previously converted/changed from "old" to "new".

Quote:

Address 09:3C0 937 049 re-encoded (long encoding) from E78A8F0700041A00000A00000F000000000F5D435C0000 to E78A8F2700041A00000A00000F000000000F5D435C0000 (05311/000/00000) Friday, December 31, 2010, 14:30:33:49709
Address 09:3C0 937 049 re-encoded (long encoding) from E78A8F2700041A00000A00000F000000000F5D435C0000 to E78A8F2700041A00000000000F000000000F5D435C0000 (05311/000/00000) Friday, December 31, 2010, 14:35:24:49709.
Address 09:3C0 937 049 re-encoded (long encoding) from E78A8F2700041A00000000000F000000000F5D435C0000 to E78A8F2700041A000000000022000000000F5D435C0000 (05311/000/00000) Friday, December 31, 2010, 14:44:19:49709
Address 46:3C0 959 433 re-encoded (long encoding) from 00900A00D1030E763004941570084F0E707800 to 00900A00D1030E763004141570084F0E707800 (05311/000/00000) Friday, December 31, 2010, 14:50:31:49709
Address 46:3C0 959 433 re-encoded (long encoding) from 00900A00D1030E763004141570084F0E707800 to 00900A00D1030E763004141D70084F0E707800 (05311/000/00000) Friday, December 31, 2010, 14:55:42:49709
Address 09:3C0 937 049 re-encoded (long encoding) from E78A8F2700041A000000000022000000000F5D435C0000 to E78A8F2700281A000000000022000000000F5D435C0000 (05311/000/00000) Friday, December 31, 2010, 15:09:07:49709
Address 09:3C0 937 049 re-encoded (long encoding) from E78A8F2700281A000000000022000000000F5D435C0000 to E78A8F2700231A000000000022000000000F5D435C0000 (05311/000/00000) Friday, December 31, 2010, 15:10:36:49709
Address 17:3C0 920 871, re-encoded (short encoding) from 0007105 to 0005105 (35122/142/93682). Friday, December 31, 2010, 15:28:49:49709.
Address 46:3C0 959 433 re-encoded (long encoding) from 00900A00D1030E763004141D70084F0E707800 to 00900A00D1030E763004143F70084F0E707800 (05311/000/00000) Friday, December 31, 2010, 15:34:58:49709
Address 46:3C0 959 433 re-encoded (long encoding) from 00900A00D1030E763004143F70084F0E707800 to 00900A00D1030E763004153F70084F0E707800 (05311/000/00000) Friday, December 31, 2010, 15:37:09:49709
Address 46:3C0 959 433 re-encoded (long encoding) from 00900A00D1030E763004153F70084F0E707800 to 00900A00D1030E763004050F70084F0E707800 (05311/000/00000) Friday, December 31, 2010, 16:48:07:49709
Address 09:1P0 955 559, re-encoded (short encoding) from 00137517 to 00203053 (06441/785/00200). Saturday, January 1, 2011, 14:21:44:49709.
Address 09:1P0 955 559, re-encoded (short code) from 00203053 to 00465197 (06441/785/00200). Saturday, January 1, 2011, 14:34:23:49709.
Address 46:1K0 959 433 recoded (long coding) from 198000005283CC7F0006050560084F01207800 to 198000005283CC7F0004050560084F01207800 (06441/785/00200) Saturday, January 1, 2011, 2:40:33:49709.
Address 46:1K0 959 433 recoded (long coding) from 198000005283CC7F0004050560084F01207800 to 198000005283CC7F0006050560084F01207800 (06441/785/00200) Saturday, January 1, 2011, 2:42:43:49709.
Address 09:1P0 955 559, re-encoded (short encoding) from 00465197 to 00203053 (06441/785/00200). Saturday, January 1, 2011, 14:43:10:49709.
Address 09:3C1 955 119 A recoded (short code) from 00063445 to 00065493 (05311/000/00000). Saturday, January 1, 2011, 18:49:56:49709.
Address 09:3C0 937 049 re-encoded (long encoding) from E78A8F2700231A000000000022000000000F5D435C0000 to E78A8F2700281A000000000022000000000F5D435C0000 (05311/000/00000) Saturday, January 1, 2011, 18:59:14:49709.
Address 46:3C0 959 433 re-encoded (long encoding) from 00900A00D1030E763004050F70084F0E707800 to 00900A00D1030E7630040F0F70084F0E707800 (05311/000/00000) Sunday, January 2, 2011, 2:41:46:49709.
Address 09:3C0 937 049 re-encoded (long encoding) from E78A8F2700281A000000000022000000000F5D435C0000 to F78A8F2700281A000000000022000000001F5D435C0000 (05311/000/00000) Sunday, January 2, 2011, 14:48:26:49709
Address 09:3C0 937 049 re-encoded (long encoding) from F78A8F2700281A000000000022000000001F5D435C0000 to F78A8F2700281A000000000022000000001F5D43460000 (05311/000/00000) Sunday, January 02, 2011, 15:16:58:49709
Address 09:3C0 937 049 re-encoded (long encoding) from F78A8F2700281A000000000022000000001F5D43460000 to E78A8F2700281A000000000022000000000F5D435C0000 (05311/000/00000) Sunday, January 02, 2011, 15:20:31:49709
Address 09:3C0 937 049 re-encoded (long encoding) from E78A8F2700281A000000000022000000000F5D435C0000 to E78A8F27003C1A000000000022000000000F5D435C0000 (05311/000/00000) Monday, January 3, 2011, 19:03:39:49709.
Address 09:3C0 937 049 re-encoded (long encoding) from E78A8F27003C1A000000000022000000000F5D435C0000 to E78A8F27003C1A000000000014000000000F5D435C0000 (05311/000/00000) Tuesday, January 11, 2011, 18:27:45:49709
Address 09:3C0 937 049 re-encoded (long encoding) from E78A8F27003C1A000000000014000000000F5D435C0000 to E78A8F27003C1A0D0000000014000000000F5D435C0000 (05311/000/00000) Tuesday, January 11, 2011, 18:29:01:49709


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Post17-01-2011, 0:17    Subject: Non-erasable fault code door control Passat 3C Quote

and again as a file...


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Post18-01-2011, 23:59    Subject: Non-erasable fault code door control Passat 3C Quote

and, can anyone help me here?

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Post19-01-2011, 8:30    Subject: Non-erasable fault code door control Passat 3C Quote

At least, it's clear from the log that nothing was re-programmed on the control unit.

Please upload a complete car scan.

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Post19-01-2011, 13:24    Subject: Non-erasable fault code door control Passat 3C Quote

Okay, I'll do it tonight.

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Post19-01-2011, 23:48    Subject: Non-erasable fault code door control Passat 3C Quote

Here is the scan...



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Post20-01-2011, 9:09    Subject: Non-erasable fault code door control Passat 3C Quote

Hello Patrick,

Could you please check if the driver's side door can be programmed with the same code as the passenger's side door, which is 0000246?

Then the automatic folding mirrors and the tailgate unlocking would no longer be activated, but I would still really like to find out why the control unit cannot be reprogrammed.

Perhaps Rainer has an even better idea.

PS @Rainer, did you see my post about the incorrect label file translation in the Christmas gift discussion thread? Or should something like that be addressed to Sebastian rather than to you?
I, along with the user Patti, tracked down the error:
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PS Rainer: I found a translation error in the label file 3C0-919-283.lbl. The body code is shifted by one. See


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Post20-01-2011, 9:39    Subject: Non-erasable fault code door control Passat 3C Quote

Coding for power window control, passenger side: 246.

- Body style (4-door)
- Door exit/warning light installed.
- Heated mirror installed.
- Automatic mode active.
- Side turn signals (mirrors) installed.
- Equipped with ambient lighting around the mirror.

Driver's side door electrics coding: 4343.

- Retractable side mirrors installed.
- Body style (4-door)
- Door exit/warning light installed.
- Heated mirror installed.
- Automatic mode active.
- Side turn signals (mirrors) installed.
- Equipped with ambient lighting around the mirror.
- Button for remote unlocking of the tailgate (E233)

Martin already said it, do you get it?

@MartinViewing profile: Martin: Sorry, I hadn't noticed that! I'll forward it to Sebastian. I wouldn't have expected that to come up in a discussion about Christmas presents, but eventually I just stopped participating...

Folding mirrors only make sense if they are installed on both sides, so I'm guessing the dog is buried here.

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Post20-01-2011, 10:50    Subject: Non-erasable fault code door control Passat 3C Quote

guste100 wrote:

Can you check if the driver's side door can be adjusted to the same coding as the passenger's side door, which is 0000246?


I'll try that.

If the module accepts the coding, should I revert it to the "correct" setting? Or should I also recode the passenger side and enable the folding function, which is obviously not currently coded?


@rainerViewing profile: rainer

The folding mirrors are installed on both sides and function correctly even when the button is adjusted. However, it appears that the coding is missing on the passenger side.

I will get back to you. Unfortunately, due to the amount of work I have, I can only do so late in the evening.

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Post20-01-2011, 13:55    Subject: Non-erasable fault code door control Passat 3C Quote

dieselschrauber wrote:
Martin already said it, do you get it?

@MartinViewing profile: Martin: Sorry, I had overlooked that!

Shhh... here's a little insider tip:
My name is Hendrik, not Martin. icon_lol.gif


@Patti: I still think your coding might be correct, and that the "folding mirror" setting only refers to the folding mirror switch, not to the actual mirror itself. And the pop-up switch is actually only located on the driver's side (just like the tailgate release switch).

In the case of RHD, it would be different on each side.

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Post21-01-2011, 21:07    Subject: Non-erasable fault code door control Passat 3C Quote

Okay, I was just able to focus on the coding. The control module accepted the coding "246" (like on the passenger side). And the best part is... besides the tailgate opening, the mirror folding function continues to work perfectly without any restrictions! So, I've now only added the "1" for the tailgate opening, and now everything is error-free and functions perfectly as it should.

Here's the log from the device:

Quote:

Friday, January 21, 2011, 17:55:09:49709
VCDS Version: RKS 10.6.3
Data as of: 20101206


Address 42: Door electronics. Driver Label file: RKS\1K0-959-701-MAX3.lbl
Control unit part number: 1K0 959 701 Q. Hardware: 1K0 959 793 M.
Component and/or version: J386 DOOR-SG FT 1131
Encoding: 0000247
Operating number: WSC 12336 024 39475
VCID: 3C58634A06ED
No errors found.




@hendrik & rainer

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Post21-01-2011, 21:09    Subject: Non-erasable fault code door control Passat 3C Quote

Thank you for the feedback icon_smile.gif.
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