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Post14-11-2013, 17:47    Subject: Who has experience using VCDS on an Apple device? Quote

Hello everyone!

Until recently, I was using VCDS on my MacBook through a Windows 7 installation using Boot Camp.

It also worked perfectly well – without any limitations.

I have now removed the Boot Camp installation and installed Windows 7 using VMware Fusion. While it generally works, communication errors with control units frequently occur.

Has anyone else had any experience with this besides me?
Is it possible to allocate more system resources to Windows in order to improve communication performance? I have 8 GB of RAM.

It would be great if I could continue using VCDS in the same way.

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Volker.


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Post14-11-2013, 18:28    Subject: Who has experience using VCDS on an Apple device? Quote

...I suspect (but I'm not 100% sure) that the issue is related to VMware. If my assumption is correct, the hardware is being emulated, and that might cause problems with unusual baud rates. What were the arguments against boot camp?

Greetings, Styrian.


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Post14-11-2013, 23:24    Subject: Who has experience using VCDS on an Apple device? Quote

I also suspect that the issue might be related to VMware.

What bothered me about the Bootcamp setup was that I always had to shut down my computer to use VCDS (and for other programs).

But I'm going to try Bootcamp again...


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Post15-11-2013, 13:20    Subject: Who has experience using VCDS on an Apple device? Quote

For software like VCDS, I would "always" use a computer with Windows as the host operating system, rather than having to ask myself every time a control unit doesn't respond whether the problem lies with the vehicle or the computer. That kind of thing icon_wink.gif just doesn't work for me - I don't have time for trivialities.
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Post15-11-2013, 16:04    Subject: Who has experience using VCDS on an Apple device? Quote

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With software like VCDS, I would "always" use a computer with Windows as the host operating system, rather than having to ask myself every time a control unit doesn't respond whether the problem lies with the vehicle or the computer. Something like that
just doesn't work for me - I don't have time for games or trivialities. icon_lol.gif

You're probably right!

However, since I've had a good experience using Boot Camp (because in that case, you're dealing with a computer that has Windows as the host operating system), I hoped that it would also work with VMware.

And that's why I'm considering getting another laptop...? That wouldn't really make much sense either...


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Post15-11-2013, 21:29    Subject: Who has experience using VCDS on an Apple device? Quote

I've had pretty good experiences using VCDS with Parallels, but then I also bought a new netbook for €200 because it's simply more comfortable. icon_wink.gif
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Post21-11-2013, 21:39    Subject: Who has experience using VCDS on an Apple device? Quote

Hi,

I generally use VCDS under Linux with the help of a QEMU-KVM instance running an old version of Windows XP. The USB device is passed through to the VM by QEMU, and the necessary USB drivers are installed within the VM (just like normal).

It works without any problems, both on the Ibiza, which still had a K-Line, and now on the Octavia with CAN. I've never experienced any communication problems; everything is extremely stable.

"The host machine is a 2008 Thinkpad x61s with a 1.8GHz Core2Duo processor, which, by today's standards, is quite a slow machine and only supports the first version of vt-x." The device has 4 GB of RAM, of which the VM gets 1 GB (which is already more than enough for the purpose).

I think it's most important to pass the entire USB device (i.e., the diagnostic adapter) into the VM and ensure that the host operating system cannot interfere with it in any way. All of that is easy to do with KVM under Linux, but I think it should also be possible to achieve the same with VMware.

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If my understanding is correct, the hardware is being emulated, and that might cause problems with unusual baud rates.


This only applies to serial adapters. With USB devices, you can essentially pass the entire USB device through, and then there's only a small amount of USB software involved (specifically, the emulation of a USB host for the guest operating system). The only thing that really makes a difference is the driver inside the guest.

Otherwise, I wouldn't attribute the problem to a lack of resources within the VM, but rather to too much unnecessary overhead running around it. It's best to minimize the load on the host system.

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Post24-11-2013, 18:43    Subject: Who has experience using VCDS on an Apple device? Quote

I just bought an old Windows laptop for 50 euros.
It works perfectly with that!

And I'm not too afraid to take the laptop into the garage and use it for other information... icon_wink.gif

And a Parallels license would have been even more expensive!

Thank you for your replies!

Regards,
Volker.


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