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Post13-05-2003, 16:03    Subject: Is this box worth buying? Quote

I'm considering buying this box on eBay. Has anyone had any experience with it?

[Used book]


Thank you for all the answers.

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Post13-05-2003, 16:13    Subject: Is this box worth buying? Quote

Since when have there been 90 and 110 horsepower versions of the PD engine?

Furthermore, the auction has ended.


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Post13-05-2003, 16:28    Subject: Is this box worth buying? Quote

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The tuning box is pre-set, but it can be adjusted to provide more or less power using an adjustment screw. So simply install it and start driving.


I highly doubt that it's possible to achieve a verschandeln adjustment with just one adjustment screw on each motor and still get the specified increase in power.
The box was not intended for use with PD motors, and that was also indicated on the packaging.

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Post13-05-2003, 16:46    Subject: Is this box worth buying? Quote

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Auserdem ist die Auktion beendet.


The seller has several tuning boxes listed on eBay.
is for an old B4 1Z, manufactured in 1994.

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Post14-05-2003, 11:27    Subject: Is this box worth buying? Quote

Well, seeing that makes me feel sick.
There is no 'imprint' (legal notice) provided on the seller's website.
no address, no phone number, and the email address.
That tells me everything I need to know about GMX.
Aside from the numerous spelling errors, there are also so many technical inaccuracies that it gives the impression that the person writing doesn't know what they're selling. Furthermore, it's clear that this is just cheap, low-quality merchandise.
I would rather save a little more money and get a proper (!) chip installed.


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Post14-05-2003, 12:01    Subject: Is this box worth buying? Quote

Hi,

Stefan wrote:
So, when I see that, I feel sick.
There is no "imprint" (legal notice) provided on the seller's website.
no address, no phone number, and the email address.
That tells me everything I need to know about GMX.
Aside from the numerous spelling errors, there are also so many technical inaccuracies that it gives the impression that the person writing doesn't know what they're selling. Furthermore, it's clear that this is just cheap, low-quality merchandise.
ich würde lieber noch etwas geld sparen und mir einen ordentlichen (!)chip einbauen (lassen).


Stefan is right about that!

When comparing the article "Comparison of Chip and Tuning Box" from the "Tuner" homepage, one cannot help but feel that the content originates from Rainer's website and has only been slightly modified. If you try to copy anything from it by right-clicking, you even get a copyright notice. What irony.

@Rainer

Take a look at this!

http://www.realhomepage.de/members/tuningkoncept/mehr2.html

Sure, here is the translation of the text from German to English:

"Supplement:"
http://www.realhomepage.de/members/tuningkoncept/mehr4.html
The image is likely from the article "10-Cent Tuning."
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Post14-05-2003, 12:34    Subject: Is this box worth buying? Quote

Hello,

That's tough... The author of the article is Ulf.
Hey krass.. der hat ja auch gleich die Bilder mit kopiert. icon_twisted.gif

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Post14-05-2003, 12:57    Subject: Is this box worth buying? Quote

Yes, and the image with the diesel engine and the round red circle on it is from me... icon_evil.gif


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Post14-05-2003, 13:35    Subject: Is this box worth buying? Quote

Hi,

I would suggest simply writing to the hostmaster or abuse address of the web hosting provider. Then the website will be taken down much faster than that person realizes that "Konzept" should be written as either "konzept" or "concept," but not "koncept."

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Post14-05-2003, 13:45    Subject: Is this box worth buying? Quote

When I see things like this, it really makes you lose interest in eBay... the number of dubious people and goods of questionable origin that are circulating there is just too much. For example, you find Palms without chargers or accessories, AKTE and Winelsa on copied CDs... I'm getting the impression that eBay is turning into a real fairground for scammers and gangs of thieves. And instead of stopping illegal activities and fraud, eBay seems to be encouraging it with its private auctions and so on... icon_confused.gif


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Post14-05-2003, 14:19    Subject: Is this box worth buying? Quote

Hi,

small addition:

A former forum member is also selling "PD Boxes" on eBay. After not receiving a proper answer here about how these cheap "PD Boxes" work (and then leaving the forum), he is now selling "PD Powerboxes" for 42 euros.
These boxes essentially consist of a resistor, a housing, some wiring, and two matching connectors.

icon_eek.gif I guess I'm just too honest icon_evil.gif.
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Post14-05-2003, 16:00    Subject: Is this box worth buying? Quote

I don't want the box anymore!!!


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Post14-05-2003, 21:25    Subject: Is this box worth buying? Quote

Bertil wrote:
... he now sells PD Powerboxes for 42 euros.
Diese Boxen bestehen im wesentlichen aus einem Widerstand, einem Gehäuse, ein bisschen Kabel und zwei passenden Stecker.


Hi Bertil.

Do you happen to know the function of one of the resistors?
It seems that such a simple solution for improving performance, in my opinion, can only involve minor adjustments through the diesel temperature icon_eek.gif icon_question.gif.


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icon_eek.gif I guess I'm just too honest icon_evil.gif
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You might be right about that.
Humanity (or most of it) wants to be exploited and is essentially just waiting for the opportunity to spend a lot of money on it.
Actually, everyone is stupid who doesn't participate (on the seller's side, of course icon_twisted.gif).
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Post14-05-2003, 22:01    Subject: Is this box worth buying? Quote

@Vikinger: By the way, I still have a Palm device without a Palm OS but with a charging station and original packaging icon_cry.gif.
Mine probably ended up on eBay or somewhere like that too...


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Post15-05-2003, 7:15    Subject: Is this box worth buying? Quote

Hi Ulf,

ulf wrote:
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Do you happen to know the function of one of the resistors?
So simpel kann IMO doch nur ein Mini-Tuning über die Dieseltemperatur funzen icon_eek.gif icon_question.gif ...


That's exactly how it works. The fuel temperature sensor is bypassed and set to a fixed value. This simulates a high fuel temperature for the EDC, which then adjusts the fuel quantity accordingly. The resulting power increase should be in the range of 10-15 horsepower. However, in my opinion, this may only work on cold days. On very warm days, the engine will simply produce the same amount of power as it would with the actual fuel temperature sensor.
I "acquired" one of these parts for a neighbor and installed it for him. He's very excited about it (I'm not). I might be able to lend it out for some test runs sometime.
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Post15-05-2003, 7:54    Subject: Is this box worth buying? Quote

Here's how you can do a 10-cent fuel injector tuning:

Disconnect the fuel temperature sensor connector and connect the two contacts of the connector (not the sensor itself) using a '...'.
The EDC (Engine Control Unit) then assumes that a fuel temperature of approximately 110°C is present. Since warmer diesel has a lower density, the power would decrease with increasing fuel temperature. To compensate for this, more diesel is injected as the fuel temperature rises. This works for ALL pump-injector systems, whether it's in a Lupo or a Golf4 150hp.
I'll leave it to our specialists to explain whether this is a sensible or safe approach, given the already very high fuel temperatures.


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