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Post30-07-2023, 14:36    Subject: Touareg 7P - Ring Break? Questionable Errors After Marble Bite Quote

Dear Forum Community,

After a marble bite, the customer's vehicle exhibits strange error patterns.

First, I checked the engine and found a fault in heating circuit bank 1, sensor 1. The cable was intact - I thought it was a coincidence, because the fault was in the NOx sensor cable - this was repaired and covered with shrink tubing.

The error could be cleared, but it was approximately 2000km long, then suddenly reappeared - again MIL - and a fault in the bus system (see below).

Lambda sensor is also new, but the error still appears?

Control unit faulty?

Where should I start my search? Do you know these patterns?

Thank you!

LG Alex

Autoscan:

Vehicle Type: 7P-VW52 (7P6)
Scan: 01 02 03 05 08 09 15 16 17 19 2E 3C 42 46 52 53 56 62 65 72
77 85 A7

Vehicle Identification Number: WVGZZZ7PZHD016685 Kilometer Stand: 149731 km

01-Engine Electronics -- Status: Error 0010
02-Transmission -- Status: OK. 0000
03-Brake Electronics -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
05-Access/Start Report -- Status: OK 0000
08-Climate/Heating System -- Status: OK 0000
09-Main Electrical System -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbag -- Status: OK 0000
16-inch steering wheel electronics -- Status: OK 0000
17-Switch Panel Insert -- Status: Error 0010
19-Diagnosis Interface -- Status: Error 0010
2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
3C Lane Change -- Status: OK 0000
42-door electric Driver -- Status: OK 0000
46-Comfort System -- Status: OK 0000
52-door electric Passenger. -- Status: OK. 0000
53-Parking Brake -- Status: Error 0010
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
62-door electric, right-hand drive -- Status: OK 0000
65-Tire Pressure -- Status: OK 0000
72-door electric high roof -- Status: OK 0000
77-Phone -- Status: OK 0000
85-Camera Control Unit -- Status: OK 0000
A7-Infotainment Interface -- Status: OK 0000
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Address 01: Engine Electronics (J623-CVWA) Label file: None
Part Number SW: 7P1 907 311 A HW: 7P0 907 401 K
Part: 3.0TDI EDC17 H21 0003
Revision: 56H21--- CVN: A2EB68CB0000000000000000
Encoding: 292A4012232601030000
Operating Number: WSC 70793 184 00000
ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM30TDI0117P1907311A 001004
ROD: EV_ECM30TDI0117P1907311.rod
VCID: 2E04F1FE3095096AAD7-807A
VINID: 9E65EAAAA1E0A9850004618814028EC5C5

2 error codes found:
5110 - Bank 1 Sensor 1; Heating Circuit
P0135 00 [175] - electrical fault
Warning light ON - confirmed - checked since last discharge
Environmental Conditions:
Error Status: 00000001
Error Priority: 2
Frequency of Errors: 1
Odometer: 149432 km
Date: 2023.07.28
Time: 17:23:40

Engine Speed: 799.50 /min
Normalized Load Value: 47.1 %
Vehicle Speed: 0 km/h
Coolant Temperature: 77 °C
Intake Air Temperature: 38 °C
Ambient air pressure: 980 mbar
Voltage Terminal 30: 13.140 V
Fault Counter via OBD: 40
Airflow: Actual Value (mg/cycle): 219.5 mg/cycle
Average Injection Volume: 7.95 mg/stroke
Lambda Sensor 1 Bank 1: Status Check O2 Signal Bits 0-7: 0
Lambda Sensor 1 Bank 1: Voltage Raw Value O2 Signal: -9.6 mV
Lambda Sensor 1 Bank 1: Voltage of the Ri-Signal: Filtered: 3299.8 mV
Lambda Sensor 1 Bank 1: Sensor Heater Ratio: 1.95 %
LSU r O2 Adap 0: 0.00090

4452 - Sensor/Hybrid-CAN
U0029 00 [175] - No communication
[Vehicle Communication Bus APerformance]
Warning light ON - confirmed - checked since last discharge
Environmental Conditions:
Error Status: 00000001
Error Priority: 2
Frequency of Errors: 9
Odometer: 149432 km
Date: 2023.07.28
Time: 17:23:35

Motor Speed: 798.00 /min
Normalized Load Value: 47.8 %
Vehicle Speed: 0 km/h
Coolant Temperature: 77 °C
Intake Air Temperature: 38 °C
Ambient air pressure: 980 mbar
Voltage Terminal 30: 13.140 V
Fault Counter via OBD: 40
Limitation: Accelerator Pedal: 0.0 Nm
CAN Status - Engine Control Unit - Bits 0-7: 0
Speed Control System: Status Bits 0-7: 45
CAN Status - Gear Control Unit Bits 0-7: 8
CAN Status - Brake Control Unit 1-Bits 0-7: 0
CAN Status - Brake Control Unit 2-Bit 0-7: 0
Embedded gear bits 0-7: 0

Readiness: 1 2 0 0 0

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Address 02: Transmission (J217) Label file: DRV\0C8-927-7XX-V2.clb
Part Number SW: 0C8 927 755 B HW: 0C8 927 755
Part Number: 36I07G14.MOT 130 3070
CVN: 3AC29419
Encoding: 010100011C008400000000000000000000000000
Operating Number: WSC 31414 790 00001
ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMAL991031 003118
ROD: EV_TCMAL991031_003.rod
VCID: 3038EF862AA11F9ABFB-8064

No error codes found.

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Address 03: Brake Electronics (J104) Label file: * 7P0-907-379.clb
Part Number SW: 7P0 907 379 R HW: 7P0 907 379 A
Part Number: MK25A H37 0521
Revision: -------- Seriennummer: 42506444037430 Datenstand-Nummer: 7P0012v____ 0001
Encoding: 5B6B13C309252559DAFAC89B90D7A470F701
Operating Number: WSC 31414 790 00001
ASAM Dataset: EV_MK25AXT 010001
ROD: EV_ESPMK25A01000.rod
VCID: 4CC09B76A6495B7AA33-8018

No error codes found.

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Address 05: Access/Start Report (J393) Label file: DRV\8K0-907-064-05.clb
Part Number SW: 4H0 907 064 JL HW: 4H0 907 064 JL
Part Number: BCM2 2.0 H44 0582
Revision: 00002001
Encoding: 01A60010000000000000
Operating Number: WSC 31414 790 00001
VCID: 7CA00BB6B6E92BFA533-8028

Subsystem 1 - Part Number SW: 7P6 959 754 AP HW: 7P6 959 754 AP
Part Number: FBSTOUAREGIDG H08 0084
Serial Number: 3616000194396005

Subsystem 2 - Part Number SW: 4H0 905 852 B HW: 4H0 905 852 B
Part: J764 ELV MLB H40 0046
Serial Number: 3216000257806015

No error codes found.

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Address 08: Climate/Heating Control (J255) Label file icon_neutral.gif DRV\7P6-907-040.clb
Part Number SW: 7P6 907 040 CQ HW: 7P6 907 040 CQ
Part: Climate Control 2 Zones H23 1608
Encoding: B686000890
Operating Number: WSC 31414 790 00001
ASAM Dataset: EV_AirCondiFront 004001
ROD: EV_AirCondiFront_VW52.rod
VCID: 05566E52C5A36A323CD-8050

No error codes found.

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Address 09: Central Electrical (J519) Label file: None
Part Number SW: 4H0 907 063 DD HW: 4H0 907 063 AD
Part Number: BCM1 2.0 H20 0311
Revision: 23020001 Serial Number: 00001513854601
Encoding: 2600005481345D010001000000004D4C431C460806014241000000000080130200000000000000
Operating Number: WSC 31414 790 00001
VCID: 6D8636F2FD93B272D4D-8038

Subsystem 1 - Part Number SW: 7P0 955 119 HW: 7P0 955 119 Label file: DRV\1KX-955-119.CLB
Part Number: WWS 161008 033 0021
Serial Number: 90243400161102103543
Encoding: 004DBD

Subsystem 2 - Part Number SW: 7P0 955 559 E HW: 7P0 955 559 E Label file: DRV\8K0-955-559.CLB
Part Number: RLFS H10 0020
Serial Number: 80937406
Encoding: 025223

Subsystem 3 - Part Number SW: 7P6 941 431 R HW: 7P6 941 431 R
Part: E1 - LDS H02 0040
Serial Number: 00000000000211160041

No error codes found.

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Address 15: Airbag (J234) Label file:| DRV\7P0-959-655.clb
Part Number SW: 7P0 959 655 F HW: 7P0 959 655 F
Part Number: VW10Airbag001 H10 0044
Revision: -------- Seriennummer: 003S8004BXKL Datenstand-Nummer: 7P6003V____ 1655
Encoding: 0000000000000000000000000000000
Operating Number: WSC 31414 790 00001
ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW526 002001
ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW526_002_VW52.rod
VCID: 44D0B3568E19933A6B3-8010

Crash sensor for driver's side side airbag:
Serial Number: 3575LRB404T49L6E88O

Crash sensor for side airbag, driver's side:
Serial Number: 3585LRB405P4AN7OB17T

Crash sensor for side airbag on the driver's side rear:
Serial Number: 3517ARB4067475K2AQ0Q

Crash sensor for side airbag on the passenger side:
Serial Number: 3527ARB4065475K290FD

Crash sensor for front airbag, driver's side:
Serial Number: 3557BRB40654B216E261

Crash sensor for front passenger airbag:
Serial Number: 3567BRB405V4B2168O3/

No error codes found.

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Address 16: Steering Wheel Electronics (J527) Label file: DRV\4H0-953-568.clb
Part Number SW: 4H0 953 568 M HW: 7P6 953 507 AG
Part: Steering Module H06 0010
Revision: -------- Seriennummer: 01374PJG00002
Encoding: 000CF5
Operating Number: WSC 31414 790 00001
VCID: 3D26C6B2ED73E2F224D-8068

Subsystem 1 - Part Number SW: 7P6 959 542 A HW: 7P6 959 542 A
Part Number: E221__MFL-TAS H04 0028
Serial Number: 0143135 TRW 20161024

No error codes found.

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Address 17: Switch Cabinet Section (J285) Label file:| 7P6-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
Part Number SW: 7P6 920 883 L HW: 7P6 920 883 L
Part: Combo H15 0607
Revision: 15240314 Serial Number: 658151116592039
Encoding: 132733006B08000800000A
Operating Number: WSC 31414 790 00001
ASAM Dataset: EV_KombiUDSRBVW526 001030
ROD: EV_KombiUDSRBVW526.rod
VCID: 47CAA45ABF2FB8228E1-8012

1 Error found:
1048578 - Initial setup not performed
B2010 00 [009] - -
[Control unit with incorrect or missing basic settings / adaptation]
Confirmed - Verified since last deletion
Environmental Conditions:
Error Status: 00000001
Error Priority: 6
Frequency of Errors: 1
Lost Count: 47
Mileage: 144465 km
Date: 2023.05.25
Time: 15:06:36


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Address 19: Diagnostic Interface (J533) Label file: * None
Part Number SW: 7P6 907 530 P HW: 7P6 907 530 E
Part: Gateway-CAN-L H15 6051
Revision: -------- Seriennummer: 00000002428959 Datenstand-Nummer: V03935235BB 0001
Encoding: 000D07AD00
Operating Number: WSC 31414 790 00001
GVL: FB0E42251A31C10000
ASAM Dataset: EV_GatewVW526UDS 001008
ROD: EV_GatewUDS_VW52.rod
VCID: 45D6AE528523AA327CD-8010

Battery monitoring control unit:
Subsystem 1 - Part Number SW: 7P0 915 181 C HW: 7P0 915 181 C
Part: Batt_Sensor H07 0270
Serial Number: 33300530535811799437

Voltage Stabilizer:
Subsystem 2 - Part Number SW: 7PP 959 663 E HW: 7PP 959 663 E
Part: J532_DCDCStab H17 0042
Serial Number: 16313000078021200181

2 error codes found:
12290 - DC Current
U1406 00 [009] - Too large
Confirmed - Verified since last deletion
Environmental Conditions:
Error Status: 00000001
Error Priority: 7
Frequency of Errors: 1
Lost Count: 109
Odometer: 149403 km
Date: 2023.07.25
Time: 07:23:12

Voltage Terminal 30: 13.4 V
Voltage Terminal 15: 0.0 V
Engine Control Unit Temperature: 26 °C
System Status: LIN_active
IN ESP_standstill flag: no standstill detected
Engine running: off
IN ZAS_Te_X: from
Status Klemme 15 via CAN: off
Status Terminal 15: Off
Data Field: 0

16384 - Function Limitation Fatigue Detection
B130E 00 [008] - -
[Function Restriction: Suggest Breaks]
Sporadisch - bestätigt - geprüft seit letzter Löschung
Environmental Conditions:
Error Status: 00000001
Error Priority: 6
Frequency of Errors: 65
Lost Count: 156
Odometer: 144517 km
Date: 2023.05.26
Time: 07:43:25

Voltage Terminal 30: 14.6 V
Voltage Terminal 15: 14.6 V
Engine Control Unit Temperature: 24 °C
System Status: Clamp 15 is online
IN ESP_standstill flag: no standstill detected
Engine running: one
IN ZAS_Te_X: a
Status Klemme 15 via CAN: ein
Status Klemme 15: ein
Data Field: 0


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Address 2E: Media Player 3 (J650) Label file: None
Part Number SW: 7P6 035 342 E HW: 7P6 035 342 E
Part Number: SG EXT.PLAYER H19 0770
Revision: A1001003 Serial Number: 7670482038
Encoding: 010100
Operating Number: WSC 31414 790 00001
VCID: 3332E08ADB372482C29-8066

No error codes found.

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Address 3C: Lane Change (J769) Label file:| DRV\5Q0-907-566.clb
Part Number SW: 7P6 907 566 A HW: 4H0 907 566 F
Part: SWA Master H08 0030
Serial Number: 0422560885 Data Record Number: 7P6764V____ 0009
Encoding: 030311
Operating Number: WSC 31414 790 00001
ASAM Dataset: EV_LaneChangAssis 001028
ROD: EV_LaneChangAssis_VW51.rod
VCID: 3FDABCBAE7FFF0E2361-806A

Control Unit 2 for Lane Change Assist:
Subsystem 1 - Part Number SW: 7P6 907 568 A HW: 4H0 907 568 F
Part: SWA Slave H08 0030
Serial Number: 0421881683
Encoding: 030311

No error codes found.

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Address 42: Electrical Door Driver (J386) Label file: .4H0-959-793.clb
Part Number SW: 4H0 959 793 AC HW: 4H0 959 793 P
Part Number: TSG FA H03 0306
Revision: -------- Serial Number: 0000228052580
Encoding: 011D0720D000451005080000
Operating Number: WSC 31414 790 00001
VCID: 7AAC0DAEBCDD15CA41F-802E

No error codes found.

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Address 46: Comfort System (J393) Label file: . DRV\4H0-907-064-46.clb
Part Number SW: 4H0 907 064 JL HW: 4H0 907 064 JL
Part Number: BCM2 2.0 H44 0582
Revision: 00002001 Serial Number: 0420713947
Encoding: 0101163828B90080832006240000000000000000000000000000000
Operating Number: WSC 31414 790 00001
VCID: 7CA00BB6B6E92BFA533-8028

No error codes found.

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Address 52: Electrical Door Passenger. (J387) Label file: 4H0-959-792.clb
Part Number SW: 4H0 959 792 S HW: 4H0 959 792 M
Part: TSG BF H03 0306
Revision: -------- Serial Number: 0000228068669
Encoding: 011D0720D000451005080000
Operating Number: WSC 31414 790 00001
VCID: 48C8A766B2B1B75A87B-801C

No error codes found.

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Address 53: Parking Brake (J540-) Label file icon_neutral.gif 7P0-907-801.clb
Part Number SW: 7P0 907 801 G HW: 7P0 907 801 G
Part: EPB H51 1201
Revision: 00000000 Serial Number: C16A2300096 Data Stand Number: A001
Encoding: 01040100
Operating Number: WSC 31414 790 00001
ASAM Dataset: EV_ParkbA7 000006
ROD: EV_ParkbA7.rod
VCID: 372AD49ACFCFC8A2FE1-8062

Slave 3:

1 Error found:
0040 - Parking motor for electromechanical parking brake
C10E3 29 [008] - Unplausible signal
Sporadisch - bestätigt - geprüft seit letzter Löschung
Environmental Conditions:
Error Status: 00000001
Frequency of Errors: 1
Lost Count: 63
Odometer: 145936 km
Date: 2023.06.04
Time: 12:13:34
Voltage: 12.2 V


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Address 56: Radio (J503) Label file: None
Part Number SW: 7P6 035 195 D HW: 7P6 035 195
Part Number: RCD550 H41 0320
Revision: AA001001 Serial Number: VWZ8Z3SGK003CU
Encoding: 01000420040000003CFEB50300
Operating Number: WSC 31414 790 00001
VCID: 3828D7A6C251C7DAF7B-806C

No error codes found.

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Address 62: Door electrical switch, left (J388) Label file: .4H0-959-795.clb
Part Number SW: 4H0 959 795 P HW: 4H0 959 795 J
Component: TSG HL H04 0306
Revision: -------- Seriennummer: 0000227513498
Encoding: 011805200000251005080000
Operating Number: WSC 31414 790 00001
VCID: 48C8A766B2B1B75A87B-801C

No error codes found.

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Address 65: Tire Pressure (J502) Label file: 3Y0-907-273.clb
Part Number SW: 7P6 907 273 L HW: 5Q0 907 273
Part Number: RDKBERU30 H04 0003
Serial Number: 30000000052442 Data Stand Number: V03935251GV 0001
ASAM Dataset: EV_RDKBERU30 005005
ROD: EV_RDKBERU30_005.rod
VCID: 45D6AE528523AA327CD-8010

No error codes found.

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Address 72: Door electrical switch, right (J389) Label file: .4H0-959-795.clb
Part Number SW: 4H0 959 795 P HW: 4H0 959 795 J
Part: TSG HR H04 0306
Revision: -------- Serial Number: 0000227513717
Encoding: 011805200000251005080000
Operating Number: WSC 31414 790 00001
VCID: 48C8A766B2B1B75A87B-801C

No error codes found.

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Address 77: Telephone (J412) Label file:| DRV\3C8-035-730-A.clb
Part Number SW: 3C8 035 730 E HW: 3C8 035 730 E
Part: Telephone 025 0983
Revision: -------- Seriennummer: 35502105294089
Encoding: 020002000100000000000101
Operating Number: WSC 31414 790 00001
ASAM Dataset: EV_UHVPremi 002709
ROD: EV_UHVPremi.rod
VCID: 25160ED265634A325CD-8070

No error codes found.

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Address 85: Camera Control Unit (J852) Label file icon_neutral.gif DRV\7P6-907-217.clb
Part Number SW: 7P6 907 217 B HW: 7P6 907 217
Part: DPC-SG H27 0035
Revision: -------- Seriennummer: 262130025421000 Data Stand Number: 7P0EZ1v____ 0024
Encoding: 61020000
Operating Number: WSC 31414 790 00001
ASAM Dataset: EV_OnBoardCamera_DTR 001001
ROD: EV_OnBoardCamerDTR.rod
VCID: 392ED2A2F9DBDED2085-806C

Slave 1:
Subsystem 1 - Part Number: 7P6 907 658
Part Number: NICKRATENSENS H02 0001
Serial Number: 000000007069095_3016

No error codes found.

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Address A7: Infotainment Interface (J885) Label file: * None
Part Number SW: 7P6 907 540 B HW: 1K0 907 951
Component: IF CAN Info. H29 0013
Serial Number: 080816F1000677
Encoding: 04052602000000001003
Operating Number: WSC 31414 790 00001
ASAM Dataset: EV_InfotInterConti 001002
ROD: EV_InfotInterConti.rod
VCID: 3828D7A6C2D1C7DAF7B-806C

No error codes found.

Ende--------(Duration: 02:41, Battery Voltage Start/End: 12.4V/12.4V)---------

Ring fracture diagnosis:

ECU Part Number: 7P6 907 530 P
Part and/or Version: Gateway-CAN-L H15 6051

Ring fracture diagnosis: Standard

Control unit Electric Optical
Diagnosis Interface Error Error
Switch Panel Installation Error Error
Radio Error Error
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Post30-07-2023, 16:28    Subject: Touareg 7P - Ring Break? Questionable Errors After Marble Bite Quote

What surprises me is that the ring failure diagnosis confirms both visual and electrical faults for the diagnostic interface, control panel, and radio.

However, everything appears to be working, as the control units can also be directly addressed via VCDS.

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Post31-07-2023, 18:10    Subject: Touareg 7P - Ring Break? Questionable Errors After Marble Bite Quote

Hello,

The error in the optical bus is strange, I expected the audio system to not work.

Would like to clear all errors and see what comes back, possibly there was a short circuit due to the NOx cable being damaged and then starting the system.

Best regards, Rainer
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Post16-08-2023, 7:11    Subject: Touareg 7P - Ring Break? Questionable Errors After Marble Bite Quote

Hello,

Errors always reappear, and cannot be deleted.

The car drives normally, without any fault codes. In principle, the fault itself would not be a major problem, however, the engine check warning light is a hurdle for the TÜV (German technical inspection).

How should I proceed with guided troubleshooting?

Thank you!

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Post16-08-2023, 19:10    Subject: Touareg 7P - Ring Break? Questionable Errors After Marble Bite Quote

Hello,

I would get the car's wiring diagram from Erwin (siehe Fehlerdatenbank) and first fix the two issues mentioned in the engine control unit.

Either the probe/sensor is defective or the associated wiring.
The engine control unit (ECU) is not very prone to failure.

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