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Post03-06-2015, 19:18    Subject: Quote

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I hope for a little more understanding from the insurance company.


...you might have to wait a long time for that. Purely speculatively, they won't agree to anything... there's no reason for them to.

The icon_biggrin.gif must determine the extent of the damage in order for any basis for negotiation to exist.
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Post08-06-2015, 21:27    Subject: Quote

Okay, let's move on towards a diagnosis.

Attached is the MWB 13-18-23 report. In addition, there is the error memory of the engine control unit.



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Post08-06-2015, 22:04    Subject: Quote

I would remove the PD element from cylinder 4, visually inspect the seats and seals, and then swap it with a different cylinder (using new gasket sets).

After that, check if the problem is related to the misfire or the high idle speed. If it is, obtain a different pressure sensor, install it with a new gasket, and observe.

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Post08-06-2015, 22:25    Subject: Quote

dieselschrauber wrote:
I would remove the PD element from cylinder 4, visually inspect the seats and seals, and then exchange it with a different cylinder (using new gasket sets).

After that, check if the problem is related to the misfire or the high idle speed. If it is, obtain a different pressure sensor, install it with a new gasket, and observe.

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You wrote down my plan icon_wink.gif.
It's tentatively scheduled for Friday, pending the arrival of the ultrasonic cleaner.


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Post09-06-2015, 7:37    Subject: Quote

I wouldn't expect too much from the ultrasonic cleaner. You'll need the right cleaning solution and a lot of time...


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Post09-06-2015, 15:13    Subject: Quote

I have the time, and I can get the right cleaner at the icon_smile.gif (please correct me if that's not correct...).

I will definitely verschandeln the injectors, as they have been in use for over 120,000 kilometers since the last cleaning.

There is still an update regarding the insurance. They will pay according to the cost estimate icon_wink.gif.


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Post09-06-2015, 22:48    Subject: Quote

yaya wrote:

There is still an update regarding the insurance. They will pay according to the cost estimate icon_wink.gif
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Then make sure that the icon_smile.gif also complies with the KV.

My skeptical, experience-honed eyes read the subordinate clause "additional costs may arise" in that sentence.

With fictitious billing, there is no VAT (at least this is the case with comprehensive insurance claims) - this is another point that should not be overlooked.

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Post10-06-2015, 9:20    Subject: Quote

That shouldn't be a problem, I will have the amount paid out icon_smile.gif.
But thank you for the information, it might help warn others.


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Post10-06-2015, 9:48    Subject: Quote

Hi,
Could you please let us know whether the price is net or gross?

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Post10-06-2015, 9:55    Subject: Quote

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Could you please let us know whether the price is net or gross?

Thank you.
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It always results in a net amount, as it is legally regulated.
I was also informed that this doesn't change, even if you, like me, have your residence abroad.


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Post23-07-2015, 11:26    Subject: Quote

There is news icon_wink.gif.

- Insurance has been paid.
- Ultrasonic cleaner acquired.
- Cleaning solution obtained.
- 4 sets of seals obtained.

Result: It's working again!

I would like to thank everyone who took the time and effort to share their ideas with me.



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Post23-07-2015, 13:48    Subject: Quote

The idle noise regulation looks good (the values are only meaningful when idling), hopefully the ultrasonic cleaning has made a difference. I'm a bit skeptical based on my experience. icon_wink.gif

Unfortunately, your engine control unit doesn't have a data block that includes the lambda value (and doesn't even have an oxygen sensor). This value would have been interesting at full throttle and between 1200-4500 rpm: If the fuel injectors were clogged, the lambda value would likely be relatively high.
However, in most cases, the BKD injectors are unlikely to clog.

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Post23-07-2015, 13:51    Subject: Quote

Hello Rainer,

"Thank you - yes, the idle speed control was measured at idle -> the values are correct."

Is the lambda sensor part number MWB 040, or what?
I can check that out and post it here sometime soon.


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Post23-07-2015, 16:04    Subject: Quote

As previously mentioned, the BKD does not have a lambda sensor.

If such a value appears in a vehicle's diagnostic data, it is calculated based on air mass and fuel injection volume and provides no information whatsoever about whether any injectors are faulty or not.


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Post23-07-2015, 16:37    Subject: Quote

Okay, that's good input.

While the BKD engine is not particularly prone to coking, in this case, we also have a combination of incorrect fueling and 30-40,000 icon_wink.gif.


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