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Post23-05-2016, 12:40    Subject: Quote

Hello Guste,

I am fully aware of that. Have you ever directly powered an N280 yourself? The one in my A3 is definitely making a clicking sound, and it's quite noticeable. Of course, you can only hear it when the engine isn't running.
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Post23-05-2016, 13:00    Subject: Quote

brezelmann01 wrote:
Have you ever directly powered an n280 yourself? Mine in the A3 is definitely clicking and it's clearly audible. Of course, it's only noticeable when the engine isn't running.

Thank you for your feedback!

No, I haven't directly powered a gimbal compressor yet, but I would have expected that. That's why I phrased it as a question.
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Do you actually hear such a loud clicking sound when adjusting the swashplate?

It's good to know that you can actually hear it clearly.


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Post29-05-2016, 14:21    Subject: Quote

Unfortunately, I won't be able to continue my research until today.

I'm going to go crazy icon_evil.gif.

1. The control valve has an internal resistance of 11.1 ohms (which, according to my information, should be around 12 ohms).
The solenoid valve makes a noticeable clicking sound when I apply 12V.
3. When the engine is running, the voltage at the connector of the valve is approximately 14V.
4. Even when I run the motor with a voltage supplied from the battery, the cooling system still doesn't cool. icon_evil.gif
5. I'm frustrated by the error message from my previous post. There's nothing visually or measurably wrong.

Who knows the answer?

VG
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Post29-05-2016, 15:27    Subject: Quote

Sure, here is the translation of the text from German to English:

"Addendum:"

The error in the memory can now be cleared and will not reappear.


I suspect a mechanical defect in the compressor, because the refrigerant pressure does not rise above 6 bar.


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Post29-05-2016, 17:25    Subject: Quote

Create a log as I suggested, and then we'll see more.
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Post29-05-2016, 18:25    Subject: Quote

Nothing is happening icon_evil.gif.



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Post30-05-2016, 6:50    Subject: Quote

What's your opinion? I'm sticking with the compressor, especially since it's not under any load.


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Post30-05-2016, 10:13    Subject: Quote

My opinion is: The compressor is broken.


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Post31-05-2016, 12:36    Subject: Quote

I agree. The compressor is broken.
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Post10-06-2016, 21:58    Subject: Quote

To give you a heads-up: the climate is cooling down again after replacing the compressor and the dryer icon_smile_thumb_up.gif.

Our company's workshop evacuated and refilled the system. I took care of the rest, which included installing the compressor and the dryer.

Since the compressor is always driven by the shaft due to its clutch, I deactivated the clutch disc when installing the new compressor because I was driving with the air conditioning system evacuated (to avoid damaging the compressor).

The colleagues properly filled the system today, and this afternoon I reactivated the take-away disc. The air conditioning is not cooling icon_evil.gif.

I read the memory using VCDS. The climate control system reports a short circuit after the positive terminal. Then I looked at the measuring blocks and noticed that in the "LO" position, the compressor current is 110 mA instead of 820 mA.

Okay, first a beer and some thinking. I've checked the electrical system icon_razz.gif many times... the cables look good. I unplugged the connector again and treated the contacts with Ballistol. I plugged the connector back in and started the motor. AC set to LO... and there you go, it's cooling }.

Thank you very much to everyone who participated in the discussion.

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Post11-06-2016, 10:38    Subject: Quote

Thank you for the feedback icon_smile_thumb_up.gif.


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Post13-06-2016, 14:23    Subject: Quote

Sure. If the temperatures rise above 30°C again, I will create a climate log and post it here.

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Post23-06-2016, 16:37    Subject: Quote

It's time. The outside temperature has been reached icon_cool.gif. As promised, I will make my recording available at approximately 35°C.

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Post24-06-2016, 18:59    Subject: Quote

Thank you for the log.
But honestly, that doesn't really tell us anything. What should we be able to learn from it?
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Post25-06-2016, 17:14    Subject: Quote

brezelmann01 wrote:
Thank you for the log.
But honestly, that
tells absolutely nothing. What should one be able to learn from it? }

"You can clearly see the exhaust temperatures. What values should I have logged?"
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Post25-06-2016, 18:41    Subject: Quote

Hello, you can tell there's a good intention, and that the air conditioner is cooling. icon_cool.gif Unfortunately, not enough.

"For example, the boundary conditions such as blower position/blower speed, etc., are missing."

See the testing conditions for an air conditioning system:
/viewtopic.php?t=3475#Press

Best regards, Rainer.


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