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dieselmartin Profi-Schrauber


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26-02-2004, 1:32 Subject: |
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Hey Alex
You still owe us a sum
What did the 4 duets cost? Did you get the complete ones from AT, or did you have them broken down/have them broken down ???
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26-02-2004, 1:34 Subject: |
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I think I finally get it!
it's simply new nozzles!
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27-02-2004, 14:07 Subject: |
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Okay, let's talk about it... How should a TDI smell?
I bought it used with 140,000 km on the odometer...it of course doesn't smell like roses or violets
It smells more like... chlorine or something similar.
It's a 2.5 V6 TDI AKE.
I am generally looking for lost fuel...something like an injector could also help the car 'drink' more fuel...
Can someone describe the 'optimal scent'? Lazy Eggs (H2S) or Gucci? |
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Bertil Profi-Schrauber

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27-02-2004, 14:23 Subject: |
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{Okay}... How should a TDI smell? Polarlarry wrote: |
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It smells more like... chlorine or something similar.
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You seem to have a cheerful disposition... Smells describe ....
So, a slight chlorine-like odor is normal.
If the DI smells strongly of old tractor exhaust (i.e., soot), then I would consider optimizing the combustion process. Gruß Bertil
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Roger Profi-Schrauber


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27-02-2004, 15:59 Subject: |
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@Polarlarry:
Lazybones is a gasoline.
Gucci a rainbow-colored Diesel  ...
Seriously, something like chlorine or acidic is a proper scent for a direct injection system. There has really developed a characteristic smell, you can often smell the fully loaded tractor on the track long before you see the smoke cloud  .
But if it becomes smoky and sticky, something is usually wrong.
As Bertil already wrote. Gruß
Roger
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Jan03 Blaumann

Joined: 08/24/2003 Posts: 142 Karma: +6 / -0 Location: Dänemark 2010 Volkswagen Polo Free account, no CAN development support
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09-03-2004, 9:40 Subject: |
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donalexo wrote: | Hello everyone!
Re-opened this somewhat outdated thread in response to recent events.
My exhaust smell is now comparable to that of a new car or a CDI again. It now smells slightly pungent and sulfurous again, just like a direct injection diesel
Now, you're probably wondering what has changed?
1) Brand new nozzle holder combinations
2) Relatively new, uniform pressure valves (approximately 37,000 km) on the fuel injection pump
If your TDI smells like a diesel engine, a tractor, or even Russian diesel, then you should probably pay attention to the components mentioned above
Your oil consumption should, of course, be within the normal range, otherwise even the best injectors won't be able to ensure "clean" emissions.
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donalexo:
Okay, so, das interessiert mich jetzt auch noch mal. Why did you replace the equal-pressure valves? Just on suspicion? Could you also detect a difference just by changing the valves?
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donalexo Profi-Schrauber

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09-03-2004, 13:21 Subject: |
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Hello Jan03!
Unfortunately, I am unable to adequately differentiate between the (partial) effects of changing the pressure valves and the nozzles, as I performed both changes in a single operation.
Certainly, it would have been essential to change only one thing and then observe the result in order to arrive at an accurate diagnosis.
Now, unfortunately, due to time constraints, I had to replace both the pressure-regulating valves and the nozzles simultaneously.
In summary, a significant difference was observed.
My suspicion of a faulty pressure regulator stemmed from the fact that I had recently installed other nozzles for testing purposes, which were also used, but had a lower lifespan. With these nozzles, I observed the highest idle run regulation values on the same cylinder, and I continued to observe a slight knocking noise on one cylinder.
With the new nozzles and equal-pressure valves, all cylinders are now much closer together in terms of idle speed control, and the knocking has also disappeared.
The ideal diagnostic method would certainly have been to replace each pressure valve individually and then measure the change using a VAG-COM and also listen with my own ears.
But the associated time commitment cannot be justified, especially when one relies on their car daily and has very little free time.
Greetings
Alex AUDI A3 1.9 TDI, EZ 12/96, ursprüglich MKB AGR, umgebaut zum AHF mit GT1749V-Lader, verkauft mit 250tkm
Golf 4 1.9 TDI, EZ 1/98, MKB ALH, jetzt auch mit GT1749V-Lader, verkauft mit 300tkm
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Jan03 Blaumann

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10-03-2004, 11:33 Subject: |
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Hello Donalexo
Well, that sounds promising. I also have new nozzles and still have the slight knocking and uneven idle speed control. I was already thinking that a new pump is needed.
Where were the prices still? Around €40-€50 per piece, right?
Do the tubing connections also need to be disconnected on the nozzle side, or can they be moved far enough so that the valves can be replaced (one was difficult to get to seal again after replacing the nozzle)?
Greetings
Jan |
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