| Nummernschildhalter mit dieselschrauber.de? |
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13-05-2004, 21:25 Subject: |
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I fully embrace the 'diesel mechanics' community, without any reservations, and I'm even willing to promote it.
I completely agree! My suggestion to Rainer: Offer license plate holders with the option to include either www.dieselschrauber.de or another linked domain, and also offer stylish stickers with the same options. This would give customers 4 different options to choose from. Regarding the design of the stickers, as mentioned before, I also think it would be good to have text on a transparent background.
I would personally choose the license plate holders from www.dieselschrauber.de.
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Jan6K

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13-05-2004, 22:50 Subject: |
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Hi,
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Furthermore, the driving style and the layout of the route are crucial, so that a loud, obnoxious driver in a modified car can realize what's effortlessly passing him by.
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I don't care about the group at all... my only "sport" in that area is trying to rev the engine of those kinds of people at a traffic light without exceeding 2000 RPM. It works surprisingly often.
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So, I proudly show off my TDI...
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I used to drive a "TDI" for a long time, but I never felt comfortable with it in the city. It might be different in other places, and I wouldn't worry there, but my car mostly stays in Berlin, and I don't want to give anyone any kind of excuse – whether it's hatred towards diesel engines, envy, or the thought that someone could easily get rid of a (stolen) TDI. Considering all these aspects, I actually prefer that things here in Berlin seem like "oh, just another Ibiza, nothing special."
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They are still connecting those to slow, old computers.
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At least as many people associate "Ibiza" with "old, slow cars"... until one of those things whizzes past them on the highway at almost 200 km/h, or accelerates "normally" with a caravan attached.
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Jan.
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13-05-2004, 23:50 Subject: |
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I used to drive cars with 'TDI' engines for a long time, but I never really felt comfortable with them in the city. In other places, it would be different; I wouldn't worry there. But my car is parked and mostly stays in Berlin, and I don't want to give anyone any kind of excuse, however slight, to tamper with it .
'In the countryside, it's actually easier to find diesel. There are more diesel vehicles than average because every tractor uses it, and many farmers fill up their tanks at home.'
CU Gremlin.
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Thomas Profi-Schrauber

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16-05-2004, 12:37 Subject: |
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Hello,
I would generally not object to license plate frames with the website address "www.dieselschrauber.de".
"I definitely think this idea is better than stickers. I also don't see a higher risk of theft, and the car dealership, for which I currently..." I find advertising to be quite unpleasant.
Furthermore, this forum has often helped me and many others, so why shouldn't we do something "for the forum" once in a while? :
Greetings.
Thomas.
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Golf 3 TDI AFN Bj. 1997 -verkauft
Audi S2 ADU Bj. 1993
Polo 86c 2F 1W Bj. 1994 - verkauft
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16-05-2004, 13:01 Subject: |
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Hm,
Okay, I could now get these brackets printed relatively cheaply, but the minimum order quantity would be 100 pieces (which is 50 cars).
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Print motortechworld.com in blue or white.
That would result in a price of approximately €3 per holder, plus shipping costs.
Best regards, Rainer.
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Jan6K

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16-05-2004, 22:14 Subject: |
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Hi Rainer,
You're not letting anything burn, the domain is even already connected  .
Does white not go with black?
Perhaps a small survey should be conducted regarding the color choices, as these devices often have a black background. "However, white is more suitable for a license plate and is more likely to catch the eye."
At the mentioned prices, I would be interested in purchasing two items, and if individual customization is not possible, I would be happy to choose a color that is preferred by the majority.
Best regards,
Jan.
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16-05-2004, 22:26 Subject: |
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I think the gray background with blue or black text would be fine.
But basically, it doesn't really matter.
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16-05-2004, 22:36 Subject: |
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Jan6K wrote: | Hi Rainer,
You're not letting anything burn, the domain is even already connected  | .
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I don't know  , but all the examples had a white background. I need to ask something.
Best regards, Rainer.
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16-05-2004, 22:43 Subject: |
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Hi Rainer,
Give me license plate holders!!!
I like the colors on the holder. However, I would prefer the version from www.Dieselschrauber.de (with the zig  ). If we can't get 100 units together, I'd be happy to pay a little more.
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16-05-2004, 23:36 Subject: |
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I would also prefer the version from www.dieselschrauber.de (also the 'zick'  version).
I would also be happy with a slightly larger quantity. I would order 6 pieces.
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17-05-2004, 6:02 Subject: |
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Oh...
A white license plate holder just doesn't look right on a car with that deep blue metallic paint.
CU Gremlin.
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Jan6K

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17-05-2004, 9:56 Subject: |
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Hi,
I hope I won't be the only one who supports scharub-selbst.de, now that Rainer has even "taken over" the domain. Where are you, you other anonymous TDI drivers?
You really have to put a bit of persuasive argument into it... but first, let's talk about the color:
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A white license plate holder just doesn't look right on a car with that deep blue metallic paint.
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Mine is aquamarine blue metallic...
This morning, I consciously paid attention to all the different types of sign holders, and I was surprised by how many have a white background. You only really notice it if you're specifically looking for it, because the sign itself is also white, so the thin edge underneath doesn't really stand out. However, with the widespread use of white, the argument that "white is something special" becomes less valid – therefore, it's probably really just a matter of preference. Currently, I think the following makes sense:
white on black.
blue on white.
black on white
For those who prefer complete anonymity, we also have white on white and black on black options.
Regarding the text: If it weren't for the reasons I've repeatedly mentioned above, I would immediately be in favor of dieselschrauber.de as well, but those reasons exist, and it seems I'm certainly not the only one who feels that way.
I see two tasks that such a text should fulfill:
Firstly, it should symbolize a sense of belonging, which dieselschrauber.de certainly does better. However, an alias can also become established, because there are two groups of people: those who know about this site, and those who don't. The first group would quickly understand the alias if Rainer simply included it in the header or somewhere else on the pages, and that would convey the message that it's the same thing. The other group, who don't know us, probably won't care either; you can use any name you like.
The second task is to attract people here, so that they might click on the advertisements or buy something from Rainer's shop – both of which are beneficial for the forum's survival and continued existence. In this regard, I believe "schraub-selbst" is much more suitable because it appeals to everyone, not just the group of diesel drivers. One could argue that it's a deceptive tactic, but is it really? In terms of diagnostics, which is rapidly becoming a second pillar and is also well-represented in the shop, much of the information is applicable to almost every car (from the VAG group), and that's precisely the area where many hobby mechanics still have gaps in their knowledge, where they can find solutions here. If this were made clear on the homepage, that would be a perfectly viable solution. We have a subforum called "Diagnosis" where many questions about gasoline engines have already been answered, and it also contains a large number of diagnostic questions that are not specific to any particular type of engine.
One thing to consider is whether to include VAG or VW/Audi/Seat/Skoda, as the same applies to both. So far, we've only solved a couple or three non-VAG issues, compared to several hundred or even thousands of VAG cases. Therefore, it's more likely that this is a deceptive product.
It might also be worth considering adding one or two words before the URL... I just don't have a good idea for what to add. Something like "help to help yourself," but phrased more concisely.
Okay, that's enough advertising for "schraub-selbst.de" – what do you think?
Best regards,
Jan.
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17-05-2004, 10:38 Subject: |
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*zicking on*
www.dieselschrauber.de
*zicking off*
How many TDI drivers are being improperly serviced by workshops or are very dissatisfied with the service they receive? This is a direct message for them. Of course, this information would also be available through the other link. However, this specific target group, which makes up 99% of this forum, would likely be less likely to suspect that such a website exists.
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17-05-2004, 11:49 Subject: |
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"dieselschrauber.de" alone is not sufficient, but neither is it conclusive – because working on diesel engines doesn't necessarily mean we're better than the average workshop; it could also refer to a group of enthusiasts whose sole goal is tuning.
Then something more like this:
"Let down by the workshop?" "URL"
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"Has the workshop run out of ideas?" URL.
or other, concise sayings of this kind, preferably even shorter. You just have to make sure it doesn't become too aggressive.
It emphasizes the aspect of providing help and reduces the impression of a community of people who are only interested in helping themselves and not in offering advice.
The URL used after such a phrase almost doesn't matter anymore - "schraub-selbst" (DIY) would appeal to more people, while the other one is more specific to the diesel community (which, however, is somewhat counterproductive from the perspective of diagnostics and the diagnostic shop).
Best regards,
Jan.
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17-05-2004, 13:07 Subject: |
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17-05-2004, 13:12 Subject: |
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tdi problems www.dieselscharber.de
car broken, www.schraub-selbst.de
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