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Hello fellow enthusiasts, I'm genuinely curious about how a pre-production engine ends up in this vehicle. The VW group would be very careful about installing a pre-production engine in a customer vehicle. It's very strange.

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Yes, I've asked that before too. But either the sentence was too short, or it was deliberately "overlooked."

Regards,
Sure, here is the translation of the text from German to English:

"Micha"

Zak1976 wrote:

The engine came from a VW test vehicle and was one of the very first ARL engines ever produced

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I guess this test vehicle, like so many others, was purchased/disassembled by a company and then sold to its new owner through an auction house – that's my assumption.

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hello fan community, I'm really curious about how a pre-production engine ends up in this vehicle, because the VW group would be very careful about installing a pre-production engine in a customer vehicle. It's very strange.

It's right there in his signature:

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Please provide the German text you would like me to translate. Driving a Golf 3 TDI conversion (from AFN to ARL)

It's quite clear from this who didn't install the engine.

Sorry, I missed that. However, it's questionable how a supposed pre-production engine could end up in circulation; it's very strange.
You should be very careful with these engines, because things can quickly go wrong, and before you know it, the factory investigation service will be knocking on your door. So, I would advise being very cautious about bringing this problem up in the forum; think about it.

Best regards.

tdi pumpe düse wrote:

... You should be very careful with these types of engines, because things can quickly go wrong, and before you know it, the factory investigation service will be knocking on your door. ...

Exactly what I meant was that "what repeatedly happens is that such patterns between the test and the scrapping "disappear". Partially damaged engines are then "pieced together" and sold privately."

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And before anyone says, "You don't have to let the company's internal investigation department in": You cannot acquire ownership of stolen goods or goods obtained through illicit means (no matter how much you paid for them). I always have to remember this when I see different eBay auctions: When the bidding gets high, the police collect the items back from the customers. If you then have too many of these questionable items, you quickly end up with your own file.
But that might be a bit off-topic.

Regards,
Sure, here is the translation of the text from German to English:

"Micha"

Nebelwerfer_TDI wrote::
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I'm quite sure that there are people from VW reading this .
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I am even personally familiar with such things.


Don't just read along - how did I even know that?!

To be honest, I find it less problematic to discuss something like this in a forum than to go to a dealership, because the dealership is likely more interested in engines that have been illegally obtained.

It's great that people from VW are reading this. Especially when one takes the opportunity at VW to learn from mistakes that are being discussed here. (which, unfortunately, was not the case with the crankshaft bolts on the AAZ and 1Z engines ).

Okay, okay, don't be so negative, we've learned from our mistakes.

Hello!

I hope so.

Recently, the primary reasons for workshop visits have been typical consequences of cost-cutting and a desire to save money.


BYE
TDI mechanics.

na na na, not so negative, we have learned from our mistakes.

That's right - it's late, but it's here; from the AHU/AFN models onwards, there was a better screw in all engines .

I'm not very familiar with this...
"Engine numbers of this magnitude, if true, I would not post online, or one should browse anonymously."

I can't imagine that VW would be interested in a 'stolen' (if you can even call it that) engine. Basically, they can only file a complaint against the culprit - a lawsuit wouldn't be effective, and when they file a complaint against the person who 'took' the engine, the corporation usually doesn't get anything out of it......as I said: I definitely wouldn't take such a problem to the dealership, but I wouldn't worry about it much in a forum...

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I can't imagine that VW would be interested in an "stolen" (if you can call it that) engine. Basically, they can only file charges against the guilty party; a lawsuit wouldn't be effective...

Even if VW might not be interested (which I doubt, because with other car manufacturers, every single part of a prototype or pre-production vehicle is meticulously tracked when it comes to destruction), they can still file a report. And I wouldn't dismiss it as "just" a matter. If the public prosecutor's office recognizes a public interest, it will independently investigate. VW could also potentially join as a plaintiff and demand compensation, which could make the matter unpleasant from both a criminal and a civil perspective.

Regards,
Sure, here is the translation of the text from German to English:

"Micha"

@Mephisto: Theoretically, yes - but I don't think VW would chase after such insignificant junk - ARL - just because one of their employees in the testing department read something about it in a forum... They should rather be happy that the pre-production ARL 'slipped through' their fingers, and that they can now sell spare parts for it .

Nebelwerfer_TDI wrote:

... but I don't think anyone would chase after such a piece of junk - an ARL - at VW...

I can give you even more trivial examples, which is why these issues have already surfaced among colleagues at car manufacturers. Yes, some people have even lost their jobs because of it.
At the very least, I make sure not to keep or sell any prototypes after the testing phase.