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26-02-2009, 14:42 Subject: Old MSA with 2x DIL28 - 16-bit? |
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Hi!
Hab da in unserer Werkstatt ein altes MSA.. ECU unearthed.
On the bracket (which thankfully was included), there is the part number TN 1H1 906 323.
"1H1" refers to a Volkswagen Golf 3. Since the pressure sensor is rated for 200 kPa and the control unit (STG) has a plastic housing, it should be an 8-bit version from the 1Z series.
What I don't quite understand is why an 8-bit microcontroller needs two DIP28 packages, or is it already a 16-bit device?
Please don't laugh, but my area of expertise is more related to EDC16 and EDC17 systems, not those old-fashioned mechanical calculators.
Greetings.
John.
EDIT: The part number for the control unit ends with "021 Q".
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Wiesel Profi-Schrauber

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26-02-2009, 15:16 Subject: Old MSA with 2x DIL28 - 16-bit? |
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The component also has two processors (8031 cores).
Background: The processing power of a processor is not sufficient  .
One person is responsible for the engine control functions, while the other handles low-speed control and diagnostics.
Best regards, Micha.
Touran 5T1 / DFGA / TGV; Fabia 6Y5 / BNV / GGV
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26-02-2009, 15:27 Subject: Old MSA with 2x DIL28 - 16-bit? |
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Yes, I saw that. How is the memory organization structured then?
The identifiers 2,287,358,699 and 2,287,358,698 might suggest "low" and "high" respectively, but this is not necessarily the case.
It appears that, based on the circuit board design, each processor is assigned its own memory, and a master coprocessor handles the connection between the two sections.
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26-02-2009, 15:58 Subject: Old MSA with 2x DIL28 - 16-bit? |
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No, no. There's nothing about "high" and "low" here. These are two independent 8-bit computers that...
are connected to each other via an ASIC.
Touran 5T1 / DFGA / TGV; Fabia 6Y5 / BNV / GGV
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26-02-2009, 16:05 Subject: Old MSA with 2x DIL28 - 16-bit? |
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That means you have two separate files. One contains the injection parameters, and the other contains diagnostic information and LD (likely referring to "Load Data" or a similar term).
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26-02-2009, 16:25 Subject: Old MSA with 2x DIL28 - 16-bit? |
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Yep - that's how it is.
To keep things synchronized, there are also identification fields that are the same in both systems  .
Abgesehen davon würde ich die Finger von dem alten Schrott lassen. The surrounding context / The extras / The supporting details.
is at least 14 years old.
Best regards, Micha.
Touran 5T1 / DFGA / TGV; Fabia 6Y5 / BNV / GGV
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26-02-2009, 17:29 Subject: Old MSA with 2x DIL28 - 16-bit? |
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Quote: | | Besides that, I would advise you to stay away from that old junk. |
Curiosity is limitless  .
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is at least 14 years old.
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Do you perhaps have 2 such (or similar) files? I'd be curious to see how they are structured  .
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26-02-2009, 22:19 Subject: Old MSA with 2x DIL28 - 16-bit? |
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Do you know the quote by Einstein about not being sure about the boundless nature of the universe?
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27-02-2009, 20:12 Subject: Old MSA with 2x DIL28 - 16-bit? |
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"Thank you!"
Yes, I know the saying... how true  .
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06-03-2009, 9:15 Subject: Old MSA with 2x DIL28 - 16-bit? |
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The thing doesn't even have a WFS  .
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