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Beitrag25-12-2009, 13:44    Titel: 1.9 TDI VP37 - Problems with the tensioner Zitieren

Hello,

I need the help of another VP37 driver... and specifically, I need a comparison value. When I tap on my tensioner with a piece of wood, I hear a funny "boing" sound, similar to the sound of a spring being compressed.

The shock absorber has 208,000 km on it, and I've had a progressively louder hissing sound during acceleration for the past 50,000 km. It started around 3000 rpm and is now noticeable from around 2500 rpm. However, it's only audible when accelerating, and is barely audible during normal operation.

I initially suspected the exhaust gas recirculation or intake air duct, but I've ruled those out.

Could the noise be coming from the suspension strut? And could someone tap on theirs and tell me if it remains "silent"?

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Beitrag25-12-2009, 20:19    Titel: 1.9 TDI VP37 - Problems with the tensioner Zitieren

Timing belt or timing chain?

At 208,000 km, it should definitely be the timing chain tensioner. Simply replace it, and that's it.

Everything else is a waste of time.

These things naturally stretch out. Mine already makes noises after 55,000 km.
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Beitrag25-12-2009, 22:24    Titel: 1.9 TDI VP37 - Problems with the tensioner Zitieren

KRR-Spanner...

The ZR has been replaced, and there was no change in the noise. The strange thing is that the noise only appears when accelerating from 2500umin, and disappears as soon as I release the gas.

I also noticed the "booing" sound when tapping on it. I'll see if it appears during the test drive on Monday, if it does, I'll still try it, otherwise, I'll leave it as is ^^
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Beitrag25-12-2009, 22:28    Titel: 1.9 TDI VP37 - Problems with the tensioner Zitieren

Ibiza1986 hat folgendes geschrieben:
Let's see if it shows up on the test drive on Monday, if so, I'll do it, otherwise, it stays as is ^^

Just let me know, will the Ibi be gone?
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Beitrag25-12-2009, 22:47    Titel: 1.9 TDI VP37 - Problems with the tensioner Zitieren

yes,

I'm switching to a 2003 Skoda Octavia Combi, 1.9 TDI 4x4. It will be available in our family in February.
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Beitrag25-12-2009, 22:50    Titel: 1.9 TDI VP37 - Problems with the tensioner Zitieren

So, you're sticking to your signature after all. icon_wink.gif It will be alright.
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Beitrag25-12-2009, 23:37    Titel: 1.9 TDI VP37 - Problems with the tensioner Zitieren

I've replaced everything (ZR, Conti - WP - RR - spanner) and I used a Rouville chain tensioner.

Just a tip: buy something else :-/

It sounds exactly the same as the one that had already done 190,000 km.
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Beitrag26-12-2009, 0:04    Titel: 1.9 TDI VP37 - Problems with the tensioner Zitieren

Tribu hat folgendes geschrieben:
Rouville's belt tensioner inside.

What is it? icon_lol.gif
I believe that, it's not good. icon_wink.gif
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Beitrag26-12-2009, 7:56    Titel: 1.9 TDI VP37 - Problems with the tensioner Zitieren

Egon von Ruville is the intended contact, located in Hamburg. He deals with the sale of wheel bearings, water pumps, tension rollers, ZR sets, tension elements, and similar items.
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Beitrag26-12-2009, 9:44    Titel: 1.9 TDI VP37 - Problems with the tensioner Zitieren

yes, actually, the parts are okay. People like to buy them here, but this time, uh huh, grumble icon_sad.gif
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Beitrag26-12-2009, 10:52    Titel: 1.9 TDI VP37 - Problems with the tensioner Zitieren

I've also had good experiences with Ruville so far, but the Spanner I've just ordered is from INA (http://www.ina.de/content.ina.de/de/index.jsp), which is one of the largest bearing manufacturers in the area.

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So, you're still sticking to your signature. icon_wink.gif It will be alright.


yes, it might still work ;)

To expand, as I see it, it's fixed with a screw, so I would loosen it and, with the other hand, unscrew the screw, then the KRR can be attached - does this work from above, or do I really have to remove the side engine cover as SEAT describes?
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Beitrag27-12-2009, 15:37    Titel: 1.9 TDI VP37 - Problems with the tensioner Zitieren

Okay, if I have time tomorrow, I'd like to replace it.

It's not a problem with the Ibiza, I was thinking of removing the right wheel, removing the engine side cover, then using a person underneath and a wrench to insert it, while the other person above loosens the nut with a spanner. I just don't want to remove the belt if I can avoid it... or should I remove it anyway?

I think the theory is that the belt slips slightly under full load, even though it still looks okay. However, if you rub your finger over the belt, you'll find that it's covered in black residue.

This would explain why the belt only makes noise under load, because the spring tension isn't sufficient.
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