Sensors: Sales Program & Products

Hi.
Since the last topic drifted off-topic and was closed (perhaps it would have been helpful to delete the irrelevant posts), I'm simply opening a new thread to clarify my last questions.

So, is there a catalog overview available, and where can I find information on how to order them?

And secondly, what's the reason behind Bosch keeping so much secrecy about its products? Are they only trying to sell their parts to large corporations, or is there another reason?
Let's say you want to build a prototype. How do you know which Bosch parts are the right ones?

Cord wrote:

... So, is there a catalog overview available, and where can I find information on how to order them? And secondly, what's the reason behind Bosch keeping so much secrecy about its products? Are they only trying to sell their parts to large corporations, or is there another reason? Let's assume someone wants to build a prototype. How would they know which Bosch parts are the right ones?

Hi Cord,

This question sounds a little different.

As a "manufacturer," you should contact Bosch with a detailed specification of the required properties. A customer service representative there will provide you with information about the suitable parts that Bosch offers.

So, is there an overview of the catalogs, and where and how can I order them?

Look at this: http://aa.bosch.de/aa/de/fachliteratur/index.htm

or here: http://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/ASIN/3778220314/ref=ase_informationsm-21/302-4262786-5195208



And secondly, what's the reason behind Bosch keeping so much secrecy about its products? Are they only trying to sell their parts to large corporations, or is there another reason?
Let's assume someone wants to build a prototype. How would they know which Bosch parts are the right ones?

Do you tell everyone who asks you what kind of underwear you're wearing?

If you want to build a prototype, you should contact the manufacturer of the components you need. They will provide you with support. Trying to assemble something from random parts you find in books is pointless. The component manufacturer will tell you which parts will help you achieve the desired result.

Otherwise, internal documents contain not only raw data, but also other information that is not relevant to the competition.
Even if other people don't understand or can't properly read what I'm writing, if you need specifications for existing parts, that's no problem.
Here's a tip: Check out the library in the nearest larger city. They are usually surprisingly well-equipped with technical literature.

CU Gremlin.

I'm familiar with those yellow booklets, but I personally find them too general and superficial. Well, that wasn't really what we were talking about, though.

Let's take the FAG catalog as an example. In it, I can find the exact bearing I need, or at least the one I think I need.
or if you search for "27C256" on Google, you'll be overwhelmed with datasheets.

"However, if I need a MAP sensor with a measurement range of 0.2 to 2.5 bar and an external design, I'm in a difficult situation because I have to search through various vehicle models to find the right one."

and Gustav also mentioned that there are sales catalogs (but where?).

Hello Cord,
I often struggle with similar problems myself.
It's likely possible to get information from Bosch, but it's unclear who is the right person to contact and what their current attitude might be.
You might be able to find information about this through this address.
Cyclists are always striving to find the optimal solution.

http://www.bosch-motorsport.de/

Best regards, Peter.
Another http://www.diy-efi.org/diy_efi/.

Hello Cord,
The main difference is that Bosch (specifically the part that deals with sensors) doesn't sell individual components, but rather complete systems, which include sensors that are specifically designed to work with those systems.
Some of the sensors are not manufactured by Bosch themselves, but by other companies (sometimes exclusively for Bosch, which means that data sheets are not available from those companies).
For example, with pressure sensors, you can look at Motorola. Many specialized ICs, formerly exclusive to the automotive industry from Temic, have been released and - you can even buy them since Temic became part of Atmel.

Best regards, Rudi.

@cord

If you're looking for data on pressure sensors, search on Google. They are manufactured by Motorola. You'll find technical data and applications there. I searched for the MPX4250A some time ago and found the information quickly. You can find most pressure sensors at Reichelt. You can also usually get the technical data for these sensors via their information email address. Furthermore, the pressure sensors are incredibly cheap at Reichelt compared to other providers. The pressure sensor I mentioned costs around 20 euros at Reichelt, while you can easily pay three times that amount elsewhere! Or, if necessary, you can find a lot of information through Conrad's datasheet service!

Sure, here's the translation:

"Thank you."
The Bosch Motorsport website is exactly what I was looking for.
And the suggestion to use the much cheaper pressure sensors from Reichelt is also a good one.

joergs wrote:

@cord If you are looking for data on pressure sensors, then search on Google. They are manufactured by Motorola. You will also find technical data and applications there. I searched for this information for the MPX 4250A some time ago and found it very quickly. You can find most pressure sensors at Reichelt. You can also usually obtain the technical data for these sensors via the info-mail address.

Hi,

I've done a little research on this sensor, but unfortunately, the MPX 4250A is only a sensor *without* a hose connection; it can only measure ambient pressure... see the information at the bottom of the page:
http://e-www.motorola.com/webapp/sps/site/prod_summary.jsp?code=MPX4250A&nodeId=01126990368716

below:
Orderable Parts Information.

An alternative with a hose connection would be the MPX 4250AP, which, to my knowledge, is not available at Reichelt. www.reichelt.de only has it in the case 867, and that is the 4250A. http://www.reichelt.de/bilder/web/B400/MPX4115.jpg)
Data sheet:
http://e-www.motorola.com/brdata/PDFDB/docs/MPX4250A.pdf

Another alternative: the MPX 4250 DP or GP (where "P" stands for "ported").
http://e-www.motorola.com/webapp/sps/site/prod_summary.jsp?code=MPX4250D&nodeId=01M98716#documentation

Data sheet:
http://e-www.motorola.com/brdata/PDFDB/docs/MPX4250D.pdf

"And these sensors, which would be suitable as pressure sensors WITH A HOSE CONNECTION, are not available at Reichelt. At Conrad, they only go up to 1 bar of differential pressure (MPX5100DP) - which is not enough, especially if you need to measure pressure spikes."

I found some options, including www.spoerle.de (4250 AP + DP with prices on request ), but I'm not sure if they deliver in such small quantities (1 piece). They have several branches in the .de domain, but unfortunately, I'm located in the .at domain, and there are only 2 branches there, and I haven't been able to write an email to one of them yet - well, maybe something will work out eventually...

Best regards,
Munch.

I've installed the MPX4250A in an enclosure. I've connected the hose fitting. That's it! It might not look as good as an original case, but it's sealed and it works!

joergs wrote:

I installed the mpx4250a in a housing. I connected the hose connection. That's it!

It might not look as good as an original case, but it's sealed and it works!

Hi,

The appearance doesn't matter to me }.
What kind of enclosure is this?
bought/DIY, size, sealing...?

Best regards,
Munch.

The housing is homemade. It mainly consists of a piece of 22mm copper tubing with two end caps and a hose connection, and a slot in the copper tubing through which you insert the sensor into the 'housing.' I then filled this slot with polyester resin.

There are no limits to the imagination!

joergs wrote:

The housing is homemade. It essentially consists of a piece of 22mm copper pipe with two end caps and a hose connection, and a slot in the copper pipe through which you insert the sensor into the "housing". I then filled this slot with polyester resin. There are no limits to the imagination!

Thank you.

I just looked at Reichelt's shipping terms and costs for international orders, and it's so expensive that it's not worth ordering from them.
Then I'll probably have to find a suitable sensor from somewhere else and put it directly into the appropriate housing.

Best regards,
Munch.

'Thank you.'

I just looked at Reichelt's shipping conditions and costs for international orders, and I'm completely put off by them.
Then I'll probably have to find a suitable sensor from somewhere else and put it directly into the appropriate housing.


Going abroad is a different story! I didn't address that yesterday because it didn't apply to me!
but for Germany, it is simply the lowest price! }