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Post19-02-2011, 12:04    Subject: DPF Loose Parts: Buy Now & Save! Quote

Hello, I'm currently trying to replace the third temperature sensor on a 2006 T5 with a 130 hp, 2.5 TDI engine (AXD code).
Now the blockage was cleared – the cause was loose honeycomb pieces inside the pipe.



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Post19-02-2011, 13:26    Subject: DPF Loose Parts: Buy Now & Save! Quote

Interesting, it looks like there might be a material defect or excessive overheating. Were you able to determine the cause of why it detached?
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Post19-02-2011, 13:33    Subject: DPF Loose Parts: Buy Now & Save! Quote

Yes, that's still my question: Is the overheating caused by regeneration or by driving?
He's more of a cautious driver; not someone who speeds or overloads trailers.
If he weren't already so old, I would try to get something for free out of goodwill.



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Post20-02-2011, 21:56    Subject: DPF Loose Parts: Buy Now & Save! Quote

Does anyone have any suggestions as to what might be the cause?
Just replace it with a new one and that's it?
I would simply type "shaken."
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Post20-02-2011, 22:13    Subject: DPF Loose Parts: Buy Now & Save! Quote

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Does anyone have any suggestions as to what might be the cause?
Just replace it with a new one and that's it?
I would simply type "shaken".


Yes, the Lopez effect.
If you take a closer look at all these new designs, it's truly surprising that they actually work.
In my opinion, either Toys"R"us or Matchbox.
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Post20-02-2011, 22:24    Subject: DPF Loose Parts: Buy Now & Save! Quote

OK, thank you BM, then just do it again. icon_rolleyes.gif
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Post20-02-2011, 23:00    Subject: DPF Loose Parts: Buy Now & Save! Quote

teileklaus wrote:
OK, thank you BM, then just do it again. icon_rolleyes.gif


You could check with the icon_biggrin.gif to see if it's a known issue.
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Post20-02-2011, 23:33    Subject: DPF Loose Parts: Buy Now & Save! Quote

Okay, I'll take care of it when I place the order. Thanks, BM.
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Post21-02-2011, 11:53    Subject: DPF Loose Parts: Buy Now & Save! Quote

Is the engine perhaps performance-enhanced? If so, I could understand that...
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Post21-02-2011, 17:21    Subject: DPF Loose Parts: Buy Now & Save! Quote

Hello, the DPF is supposed to cost 1140 plus icon_rolleyes.gif.
"@mserge It hasn't been performance-tuned, and it's being driven responsibly."
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Post21-02-2011, 17:45    Subject: DPF Loose Parts: Buy Now & Save! Quote

Remove the broken part and continue icon_smile.gif.
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Post22-02-2011, 17:38    Subject: DPF Loose Parts: Buy Now & Save! Quote

Simply fill the casing with NASA high-temperature expanding foam, which also filters; the control unit probably won't notice icon_lol.gif.
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Post22-02-2011, 18:56    Subject: DPF Loose Parts: Buy Now & Save! Quote

Are differential pressure sensors not included either?
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Post22-02-2011, 19:06    Subject: DPF Loose Parts: Buy Now & Save! Quote

I hope you realized that was a joke, right?
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Post22-02-2011, 22:00    Subject: DPF Loose Parts: Buy Now & Save! Quote

No, not quite like that; there are people who rephrase "Ausräumen" in different ways. icon_rolleyes.gif
Yes, I am currently looking for a replacement.
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Post26-02-2011, 8:34    Subject: DPF Loose Parts: Buy Now & Save! Quote

Well, almost everything has already been said, but maybe here are a few more details:
- It's more likely due to thermal overload, but not during Normal Reservoir Mode (NRM), but rather when Active Reservoir Generation (RGN) is engaged.
In NRM, the maximum temperature is approximately 850°C (at the nominal point, more likely 820°C), resulting in about 650°C before the Diesel Particulate Filter (DPF).
=> No problem for the DPF under the prevailing mass flow conditions...
- However, if the filter is full/overloaded and the regeneration control unit (RGN) is triggered, the target temperature before the diesel particulate filter (DPF) is still around 650°C, but due to the exothermic reaction (caused by the stored soot mass), local temperatures within the DPF can quickly reach 1000°C or more.
Then, ideally, the appropriate driving maneuver ("drop to idle"), and the oxygen boost further increases the temperatures in the DPF.
=> Large thermal stresses can occur, especially at the "bonding points" of the square filter blocks, and the filter can be damaged by anything from microscopic cracks to complete failure, as you have experienced.
"Swipe tests" are therefore performed in the OEM's production lines. For example, at each stop before the final inspection (FSP), a tissue is used to wipe the inside of the nozzle once.
"gray scale" documented.
White = everything is perfect.
gray = increased attention needed; micro-cracks may already be present.
black = filter breakage (like yours).

"Since dummy vehicles are sometimes used in the testing process, which can lead to excessive soot buildup throughout the entire aftertreatment system, including the diesel particulate filter (DPF), a swab test is sometimes performed at the outlet of the DPF during filter weighing (which is necessary for creating a loading/burn-off model)."
You're basically right up front in the first row...

Unfortunately, filter breakage seems to be a relatively common issue with the T5 model.

Okay, here's the translation:

"Guys, with older vehicles, we're lucky to see them spewing smoke like crazy, but with these DPFs, we can kiss that visual indicator goodbye!"
=> It will be interesting to see what happens when the DPF systems start getting old!


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