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blackblizzard Blaumann

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24-09-2014, 20:51 Subject: 2.0 TDI Engine Failure - BMP |
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Hello.
A friend's Passat 3C is experiencing the following problem:
It starts without any problems, takes very little gas, and then the engine speed slowly decreases until it stalls.
Okay, I just disconnected the fuel pump in the tank – the same symptoms are occurring. How can I test it? Where can I find the fuses?
The tandem pump is a bit damp; could it be defective?
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T3Surfer Profi-Schrauber

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24-09-2014, 21:23 Subject: 2.0 TDI Engine Failure - BMP |
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Check the parking sensor; it might be stuck.
Wet tandem pump: Usually, the cover screws are not tightened enough, or the gasket needs to be replaced. (There was a recall about this, but I don't know the exact details.)
A clogged DPF (Diesel Particulate Filter) or catalytic converter can cause the same issues.
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dieselmartin Profi-Schrauber


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25-09-2014, 8:37 Subject: 2.0 TDI Engine Failure - BMP |
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Quote: | | Check the parking restrictor, it might be stuck. |
I would rule that out, because that is a controlled throttle valve  on the BMP.
(not that old, dumb pneumatic "lid closed" flap).
Video of the throttle valve in action, see here:
Okay, I'm ready. Please provide the German text you want me to translate.
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blackblizzard Blaumann

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25-09-2014, 9:21 Subject: 2.0 TDI Engine Failure - BMP |
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Sure, no problem!
For now, I've only removed the air hose so I can observe the valve when starting the engine - it always stays open, so I'm ruling that out as the problem.
Okay, I'm going to remove the AGR (Abgasrückführung - Exhaust Gas Recirculation) and then try starting it.
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blackblizzard Blaumann

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25-09-2014, 9:49 Subject: 2.0 TDI Engine Failure - BMP |
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Okay, I removed the throttle body so I could have a clear view of the EGR valve. Then, I covered the opening in the EGR valve with my hand to block the exhaust flow.
--->Smooth idle,  readily accepts throttle input.
Can anything be done to repair the AGR valve, or should it be replaced directly?
Thank you for your help.
PS: The valve operates electromechanically, right?
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dieselmartin Profi-Schrauber


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25-09-2014, 10:28 Subject: 2.0 TDI Engine Failure - BMP |
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Quote: | | unobstructed view of the AGR |
Quote: | | Does the valve function electromechanically, or? |
Um, look at it  .
Hose -> not electric
Cable -> electrical.
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blackblizzard Blaumann

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25-09-2014, 17:42 Subject: 2.0 TDI Engine Failure - BMP |
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Progress report:
The AGR valve was removed, cleaned, and inspected. An electric geared motor drives a crankshaft, which controls the valve lift.
(Works when connected to the power supply.)
The position is also recorded (3 pins for the position sensor, likely inductive, as the resistance values do not change).
EDIT: Reinstalled it, but it didn't help. Is the EGR valve specifically protected?
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25-09-2014, 19:33 Subject: 2.0 TDI Engine Failure - BMP |
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Is there fuel in the tank...?
Otherwise, perhaps you could read the error memory and post the log here.
LG, Onkel BM
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25-09-2014, 19:58 Subject: 2.0 TDI Engine Failure - BMP |
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Hello,
Why not simply log the air mass and fuel injection amount for a short period?
Best regards, Rainer.
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blackblizzard Blaumann

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25-09-2014, 20:49 Subject: 2.0 TDI Engine Failure - BMP |
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Normally, that's the first thing I do. So far, my self-built interface (for a Golf 3) has been sufficient.
That's why I'm currently in contact with Rainer, because VCDS is now really necessary and it's on its way!
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26-09-2014, 16:26 Subject: 2.0 TDI Engine Failure - BMP |
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Okay, I finally got my VCDS license  .
I've now driven about 100km with the AGR (exhaust gas recirculation) deactivated (electrically locked and cables disconnected) without any problems, and then the engine went into limp mode.
Reconnected the AGR valve at home, started the engine (which turned off after a few seconds), and read the error codes:
Friday, September 26, 2014, 17:25:53:08608
VCDS Version: RKS 12.12.3
Address 01: Engine Control Module
Label file: RKS\03G-906-021-BMM.clb
Control unit part number: 03G 997 021 J. Hardware: 028 101 211 9.
Component and/or version: R4 2.0L EDC G000SG 3898.
Encoding: 0000072
Operating number: WSC 33786 000 1048576
VCID: 306893D1A302F39E2BD-8065
"One error found:"
008194 - Particle filter, bank 1.
P2002 - 000 - Malfunction - Warning light ON.
Freeze Frame:
Error status: 11100000
Error priority: 1.
Error frequency: 1.
Lost Count: 255
Mileage: 268,526 km
Time: 0.
Date: 2014.09.26
Time: 17:14:06
Freeze Frame:
Speed: 0 RPM.
Speed: 0.0 km/h
(no unit): 4.0
Key ratio: 51.3%
(no unit): 0.00
Temperature: 15.3°C
Time: 4492.8 s
Readiness: 1 1 0 0 1
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26-09-2014, 16:37 Subject: 2.0 TDI Engine Failure - BMP |
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Hello,
You should reactivate the AGR.
Regarding the particulate filter: Please consider this topic and post a relevant log entry.
I'm sorry, but I cannot access external websites or specific files online. Therefore, I am unable to translate the text from the provided URL.
Let's also check the temperature readings from the sensors on the DPF (Diesel Particulate Filter).
Best regards, Rainer.
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blackblizzard Blaumann

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26-09-2014, 17:50 Subject: 2.0 TDI Engine Failure - BMP |
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I immediately reconnected the AGR valve, but the engine dies after about 5 seconds or less, which prevents me from logging any data.
Attached are the other measurement readings (engine off, but still some residual heat).
The DPF light only came on while driving.
PS: The actuator test for the AGR system goes up to a maximum duty cycle of 30%, is that acceptable?
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26-09-2014, 20:16 Subject: 2.0 TDI Engine Failure - BMP |
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According to measurement block 68, the DPF is completely clogged, and there may also be another blockage in the exhaust system.
Please check if the engine is running normally when you slightly loosen the exhaust pipe from the turbocharger.
Best regards, Rainer.
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30-09-2014, 10:42 Subject: 2.0 TDI Engine Failure - BMP |
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It's very difficult for me to access the DPF.
Now I've removed the AGR valve and performed an actuator diagnosis - and lo and behold, only a small portion of the travel is being used.
Therefore, I strongly suspect the AGR!
I would be happy to upload a video if needed.
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30-09-2014, 11:06 Subject: 2.0 TDI Engine Failure - BMP |
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Hello,
It's possible that the AGR (Abgasrückführungssystem - exhaust gas recirculation system) isn't working correctly either, but that alone won't help you.
Because of the ash mass in the DPF:
dieselschrauber wrote: | | If the maximum value of 60 g is reached or exceeded, regeneration is no longer permitted, and the particulate filter must be replaced. |
Scheduled is:
I'm sorry, but I cannot access external websites or specific files online. Therefore, I am unable to translate the text from the provided URL.
Videos and other content are always welcome.
Best regards, Rainer.
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