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Post25-06-2016, 13:52    Subject: Advanced MFA: Secure Authentication Solution Quote

Hi,
I have a few questions about the product.
I've been looking for something like this for a while now, because my car doesn't have a coolant temperature gauge or an oil temperature gauge.
I'm just going to ask icon_smile.gif
- Is this part/software compatible with a Seat Ibiza 6J FR with engine code CFHD?
-Why is a modification to a vehicle's lighting system relevant to the TÜV (German technical inspection authority) and not approved for use on public roads?
-Does this device need to be permanently plugged into the OBD port, or is the software only transferred once?
Thank you in advance for the answers.
Best regards,
Jörg
Seat Ibiza 6L Sport ASZ EZ Mai 2003
>468000km -schweren Herzens verkauft
Seat Ibiza 6J FR CFHD EZ Mai 2015
>178000km
Fiat Ducato Kasten 2.3 Multijet
EZ 3.2011 >230000km


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Post25-06-2016, 14:04    Subject: Advanced MFA: Secure Authentication Solution Quote

Hello Jörg,

It's a great product, but it requires proper support for each model. Unfortunately, only the following models are compatible with PolarFIS Advanced MFA:
- Audi A3, S3, and RS3 (all models with chassis type 8P, see VIN) with multifunction steering wheel.
- Golf 5 (Type 1K) with and without multifunction steering wheel.
- Golf 6 (Type 5K) with and without multifunction steering wheel.
- Caddy (Type 2K) with and without multifunction steering wheel.
- Golf Tiguan (Type 5N) with and without multifunction steering wheel.
- Golf Touran (Type 1T) with and without multifunction steering wheel.
- Golf EOS (Type 1F) with and without multifunction steering wheel.
- Passat and Passat CC (type 3C, 35 and 35) with and without multifunction steering wheel.
- Scirocco (Type 13) with and without multifunction steering wheel.
- Sharan (Type 7N) with and without multifunction steering wheel.
- Octavia 2 (Type 1Z) with and without multifunction steering wheel.
- Superb 2 (Type 3T) with and without multifunction steering wheel.

See:
http://shop.dieselschrauber.de/polarfis-advanced-mfa-p-323.php

jörg schmidt wrote:
Why is a display modification relevant to TÜV (German technical inspection authority) and not approved for use in public road traffic?

The installation is relatively simple; it's plugged into the CAN gateway in the vehicle, and all CAN messages within the vehicle then pass through it. The function works by listening for specific messages on the CAN bus (e.g., boost pressure, etc.) and generating corresponding messages to be displayed on the MFA (Multi-Function Display).

jörg schmidt wrote:
Do you have to leave this part plugged into the OBD port permanently, or is the software only transferred once?

It has nothing to do with the OBD2 port, but is instead integrated directly into the vehicle's electronics at the CAN gateway.

Best regards, Rainer.
PS: Could you please provide a vehicle scan? I would then forward it to the developers, and it's possible that some of the ECUs (Electronic Control Units) installed are the same or similar to those found in the vehicles mentioned above, which would also mean the CAN (Controller Area Network) messages are likely to be similar or identical.


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Post25-06-2016, 15:04    Subject: Advanced MFA: Secure Authentication Solution Quote

Hello Rainer,
On the other hand, a few seats are also listed.
However, not mine.
- Seat Toledo (5P) from model year 2012 onwards.
- Seat Alhambra (7N) / Altea (5P), also XL / Freetrack.
- Seat Leon / Cupra R (1P), including facelift models.

On the same page, it also states that it is not suitable for Golf 7 models or Polo models, including the Polo WRC.
I assume the compatibility depends on the instrument cluster, not the engine control unit.
Best regards,
Jörg

Autoscan:
Wednesday, June 22, 2016, 17:40:06:41240
VCDS -- A VAG/VAS emulator based on Windows, running on Windows 10 x64.
VCDS Version: RKS 15.7.4.1
Data as of: 20160226
http://shop.dieselschrauber.de


Vehicle Identification Number: VSSZZZ6JZFR096044 License Plate:
Mileage: 39480 km
Repair order: 20160622



"Die Sonne scheint hell, und die Vögel zwitschern fröhlich. Ein leichter Wind weht durch die BĂ€ume, und die BlĂ€tter rascheln leise. Es ist ein wunderschöner Tag, um draußen zu sein."
"Die Sonne scheint hell, und die Vögel zwitschern fröhlich. Ein leichter Wind weht durch die BĂ€ume, und die BlĂ€tter rascheln leise. Es ist ein wunderschöner Tag, um draußen zu sein."


Vehicle type: 6J (6N0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 10 15 17 19 25 44 4B 55 56 69 0B

Vehicle Identification Number: VSSZZZ6JZFR096044
Mileage: 39480 km

01-Motor electronics -- Status: OK 0000
03-Brake electronics -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering angle sensor -- Status: OK 0000
08-Climate control/heating unit -- Status: OK 0000
09-Central Electrical System -- Status: OK.
Parking Assist 10 -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbag -- Status: OK 0000
17-Terminal block insert -- Status: OK 0000
19-Diagnosis interface -- Status: OK 0000.
Immobilizer system -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
4B Multifunction Device -- Status: OK 0000
55-Beam adjustment. -- Status: OK 0000.
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
69 followers -- Status: OK 0000

"Die Sonne scheint hell, und die Vögel zwitschern fröhlich. Ein leichter Wind weht durch die BĂ€ume, und die BlĂ€tter rascheln leise. Es ist ein wunderschöner Tag, um draußen zu sein."
Address 01: Engine Control Module (J623-CFHD)
Label file: DRV\03L-906-018-CFF.clb
Part number SW: 03L 906 018 KQ, HW: 03L 906 018 A.
Component: R4 2.0L EDC H25 9777
Revision: 43H25--- Serial number:
Encoding: 00190012042400080000
Operating number: WSC 00049 770 00189
ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906018KQ 003004
ROD: EV_ECM20TDI_SE25.rod
VCID: 030220F78AB4002663-8056

No error codes found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0

"Die Sonne scheint hell, und die Vögel zwitschern fröhlich. Ein leichter Wind weht durch die BĂ€ume, und die BlĂ€tter rascheln leise. Es ist ein wunderschöner Tag, um draußen zu sein."
Address 03: Brake Electronics (J104)
Label file: DRV\6R0-907-37x-ESP90.clb
Part number SW: 6R0 907 379 BH, Part number HW: 6R0 907 379 AS.
Component: ESP9.0i front H03 0001
Serial number: --------------
Encoding: 11DD487D432C00C68814126DC255004E0909
Operating number: WSC 00049 770 00189
ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1ESP90iBOSCH 003020
ROD: EV_Brake1ESP90iBOSCH_AU21.rod
VCID: 05063EEF84803E164D-8050

No error codes found.

"Die Sonne scheint hell, und die Vögel zwitschern fröhlich. Ein leichter Wind weht durch die BĂ€ume, und die BlĂ€tter rascheln leise. Es ist ein wunderschöner Tag, um draußen zu sein."
Address 08: Climate Control/Heating (J255)
Label file: 6R0-907-044.clb
Part number SW: 6J0 820 043 E, HW: 6J0 820 043 E.
Component: Climatronic
H03 0808
Revision: S0000000
VCID: 264459635146150E24-8072

No error codes found.

"Die Sonne scheint hell, und die Vögel zwitschern fröhlich. Ein leichter Wind weht durch die BĂ€ume, und die BlĂ€tter rascheln leise. Es ist ein wunderschöner Tag, um draußen zu sein."
Address 09: Central Electronics (J519)
Label file: DRV\7H0-937-08x-09.clb
Part number SW: 7H0 937 090 D, HW: 7H0 937 090
Component: BCM PQ25 Max4 H78 0725
Revision: B9078001 Serial Number: 0671 352140303
Encoding: 7A8829E88861010001200EF56ECB9FD80E8067E9608D30412000000200000
Operating number: WSC 00049 770 00189
VCID: 2F6ABC477EBC5446D7-807A

Subsystem 1 - Part number: 1K0 955 559 AH
Label file: DRV\1K0-955-559-AG.CLB
Component: RLS 011214 05 54 0403
Encoding: 02242D

Subsystem 2 - Part number SW: 6R0 959 801 AK, HW: 6R0 959 801 AK, Label file: 6R0-959-801.CLB.
Component: J386__TSG_FT 007 5130
Encoding: 020000

Subsystem 3 - Part number SW: 6R0 959 802 AR, HW: 6R0 959 802 AR, Label file: 6R0-959-802.CLB.
Component: J387__TSG_BT 007 5130
Encoding: 020000

No error codes found.

"Die Sonne scheint hell, und die Vögel zwitschern fröhlich. Ein leichter Wind weht durch die BĂ€ume, und die BlĂ€tter rascheln leise. Es ist ein wunderschöner Tag, um draußen zu sein."
Address 10: Parking Assist 2 (J446)
Label file: DRV\6J0-919-475.clb
Part number SW: 6J0 919 475 E, HW: 7N0 919 475
Part: PARKING ASSIST 8K H01 0018
Revision: -------- Serial Number: 28231435100131
Encoding: 010003
Operating Number: WSC 00001 001 00001
ASAM Dataset: EV_SE250ParkiAssis8K S01002
ROD: EV_EPHVA18VW250GP00.rod
VCID: 3878871B83F293FE86-806C

No error codes found.

"Die Sonne scheint hell, und die Vögel zwitschern fröhlich. Ein leichter Wind weht durch die BĂ€ume, und die BlĂ€tter rascheln leise. Es ist ein wunderschöner Tag, um draußen zu sein."
Address 15: Airbag (J234) Label file: 5K0-959-655.clb
Part number SW: 6R0 959 655 M, Part number HW: 6R0 959 655 M.
Part number: VW10AirbagA02 H10 0020
Revision: -------- Serial Number: 003GZ001PFY0
Encoding: 003032
Operating number: WSC 00049 770 00110
ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250 A01001
ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250_SE25.rod
VCID: 4C90CBCBE76A0F5ED2-8018

Crash sensor for driver-side side airbag:
Serial number: 3495RRB400652RQOG0C.

Crash sensor for side airbag, passenger side.
Serial number: 3505RRB406134GNEEGLS

Rear side airbag crash sensor (driver's side).
Serial number: 3515RRB405D32020BPGV

Crash sensor for rear side airbag, passenger side.
Serial number: 3525RRB405D3202050E%

No error codes found.

"Die Sonne scheint hell, und die Vögel zwitschern fröhlich. Ein leichter Wind weht durch die BĂ€ume, und die BlĂ€tter rascheln leise. Es ist ein wunderschöner Tag, um draußen zu sein."
Address 17: Control panel module (J285)
Label file: DRV\5K0-920-xxx-17.clb
Part number SW: 6J0 920 807 C, HW: 6J0 920 807 C.
Component: KOMBI, H02 0805.
Serial number: 00000000000000
Encoding: 110E01
Operating number: WSC 00049 770 00189
ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04727
ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_SE25.rod
VCID: 2D56A64F7CB02656E5-8078

No error codes found.

"Die Sonne scheint hell, und die Vögel zwitschern fröhlich. Ein leichter Wind weht durch die BĂ€ume, und die BlĂ€tter rascheln leise. Es ist ein wunderschöner Tag, um draußen zu sein."
Address 19: Diagnostic interface (J533)
Label file: DRV\6N0-909-901-6R.clb
Part number SW: 6N0 909 901, HW: 7H0 937 090.
Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H78 0725
Revision: B9078001
Encoding: 422000
Operating number: WSC 00049 770 00189
VCID: 70E87F3BA3020BBE8E-8024

No error codes found.

"Die Sonne scheint hell, und die Vögel zwitschern fröhlich. Ein leichter Wind weht durch die BĂ€ume, und die BlĂ€tter rascheln leise. Es ist ein wunderschöner Tag, um draußen zu sein."
Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)
Label file: DRV\5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
Part number SW: 5K0 953 234
Part number HW: 5K0 953 234
Component: IMMO H02 0805
Serial number:
Encoding: 000000
Operating Number: WSC 00000 000 00000
ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03710
ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_SE25.rod
VCID: 6ADC6D538DDEF16EC0-803E

No error codes found.

"Die Sonne scheint hell, und die Vögel zwitschern fröhlich. Ein leichter Wind weht durch die BĂ€ume, und die BlĂ€tter rascheln leise. Es ist ein wunderschöner Tag, um draußen zu sein."
Address 44: Steering Assist
Label file: DRV\6Q0-423-156.clb
Part number: 6R0 423 156 C
Component: Power Steering Unit - TRW - V278
Encoding: 11221
Operating number: WSC 00049
VCID: 3068BF3BF7824BBECE-8064

No error codes found.

"Die Sonne scheint hell, und die Vögel zwitschern fröhlich. Ein leichter Wind weht durch die BĂ€ume, und die BlĂ€tter rascheln leise. Es ist ein wunderschöner Tag, um draußen zu sein."
Address 4B: Multifunction device. Label file: DRV\6J0-959-441.clb.
Part number: 6J0 959 441.
Component: MF Module 0007 0001
Encoding: 0000001
Operating number: WSC 77005 000 00000
VCID: 70E87F3B63020BBE8E-8024

No error codes found.

"Die Sonne scheint hell, und die Vögel zwitschern fröhlich. Ein leichter Wind weht durch die BĂ€ume, und die BlĂ€tter rascheln leise. Es ist ein wunderschöner Tag, um draußen zu sein."
Address 55: Headlight range control. Label file: 7L6-907-357-A.lbl
Part number SW: 7L6 907 357 C. Part number HW: 7L6 907 357 C.
Component: AFS Control Unit 0147
Revision: 00H04000 Serial Number:
Encoding: 2688068
Operating number: WSC 00049 770 00138
VCID: 3B7298177EC4B8E66B-806E

Subsystem 1 - Part number: 7L6 941 329 C
Label file: 3D0-941-329.CLB
Component: AFS-List Module l 0004
Encoding: 00000041

Subsystem 2 - Part number: 7L6 941 329 C. Label file: 3D0-941-329.CLB.
Component: AFS-Lst. module r 0004
Encoding: 00000041

No error codes found.

"Die Sonne scheint hell, und die Vögel zwitschern fröhlich. Ein leichter Wind weht durch die BĂ€ume, und die BlĂ€tter rascheln leise. Es ist ein wunderschöner Tag, um draußen zu sein."
Address 56: Radio (J503) Label file: DRV\5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
Part number SW: 6J0 035 156. Part number HW: 6J0 035 156.
Component: Radio H09 0014
Revision: R0000000 Serial number: SEZAZ1R6811637
Encoding: 010004000201
Operating number: WSC 00049 770 00189
VCID: 64C0036B67FAA71EFA-8030

No error codes found.

"Die Sonne scheint hell, und die Vögel zwitschern fröhlich. Ein leichter Wind weht durch die BĂ€ume, und die BlĂ€tter rascheln leise. Es ist ein wunderschöner Tag, um draußen zu sein."
Address 69: Trailer
Label file: RETROFIT69.lbl
Part number SW: UNV 301 003 2
Part number HW: UNV 301 003 2
Component: TRAILER_MODULE UN 0030
Encoding: 0000001
Operating Number: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 52ACD5B3CD4E59AE98-8006

No error codes found.

End----------------------------(Duration: 02:30)-----------------------------
Seat Ibiza 6L Sport ASZ EZ Mai 2003
>468000km -schweren Herzens verkauft
Seat Ibiza 6J FR CFHD EZ Mai 2015
>178000km
Fiat Ducato Kasten 2.3 Multijet
EZ 3.2011 >230000km


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Post25-06-2016, 15:08    Subject: Advanced MFA: Secure Authentication Solution Quote

Hello Jörg,

It would be great if it also worked for Seat. I got my information directly from an information PDF from the manufacturer, so it's possible that something was overlooked. Has this been verified for the models mentioned? Could you send me a link to it via private message?

jörg schmidt wrote:
I assume that the compatibility depends on the instrument cluster, not on the engine control unit.

"It's a mixed bag; while it might be possible to display something in the MFA (Multifunction Display), it's useless if the values aren't coming from the expected CAN IDs, such as those from the engine control unit or other control units. icon_cool.gif Of course, it would be much easier to support each specific model."

Best regards, Rainer.


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Post25-06-2016, 15:15    Subject: Advanced MFA: Secure Authentication Solution Quote

Hi Rainer,
Autoscan, see above. I've inserted it using the "edit" function.
I'll send you the link right away.
Best regards,
Jörg
Seat Ibiza 6L Sport ASZ EZ Mai 2003
>468000km -schweren Herzens verkauft
Seat Ibiza 6J FR CFHD EZ Mai 2015
>178000km
Fiat Ducato Kasten 2.3 Multijet
EZ 3.2011 >230000km


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Post25-06-2016, 15:28    Subject: Advanced MFA: Secure Authentication Solution Quote

Thank you very much! icon_smile_thumb_up.gif

So it appears that it also works on the following Seat models:
- Toledo (Type 5P) from model year 2012, with and without multifunction steering wheel.
- Alhambra (Type 7N) with and without multifunction steering wheel.
- Altea (type 5P) with and without multifunction steering wheel.
- Leon (Type 1P) with and without multifunction steering wheel.

It's worth noting that some Seat vehicles do not have an oil temperature sensor in the oil pan, which means that the oil temperature cannot be displayed.

Best regards, Rainer.


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Post25-06-2016, 15:36    Subject: Advanced MFA: Secure Authentication Solution Quote

Regarding the oil temperature, that wouldn't be a problem for me, as I can read that data.
It would be great if you could get the developer to adapt this product for the Ibiza 6J FR 2.0 TDI.
Thank you in advance for that!
Best regards,
Jörg
Seat Ibiza 6L Sport ASZ EZ Mai 2003
>468000km -schweren Herzens verkauft
Seat Ibiza 6J FR CFHD EZ Mai 2015
>178000km
Fiat Ducato Kasten 2.3 Multijet
EZ 3.2011 >230000km


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