6-Speed TDI 130PS Transmission

'I have a quick question: Is it correct that the 6-speed transmissions in cars like the Seat Ibiza, Audi A4, Golf IV, and VW Passat have different gear ratios? I'm considering buying a Seat Ibiza TDI Sport with 96 kW, and I often hear that the 6th gear is too long. For example, in an Audi A4, the engine speed is higher in 6th gear at 200 km/h compared to the Ibiza. So, is the transmission in the A4 (or just the 6th gear) geared shorter?'
...is there a company that offers a gearbox conversion, specifically a shorter 6th gear? ...or would the entire gearbox need to be completely redesigned?
Regards,
Monchi.

Hi,

I don't understand your problem. Be happy that the 6th gear is so long! That means you'll have lower engine speeds on average while driving, which leads to lower fuel consumption and less wear and tear.

As far as I know, you reach the maximum speed in 5th gear with the 6L engine, and using 5th gear would be a much cheaper solution than an expensive modification or replacement. You might get a few more km/h with a different gear ratio in 6th gear, but I don't think it's worth it. When do you actually drive at maximum speed? You're much more likely to be driving below that, and in those situations, the longer gear ratio is actually beneficial.

Best regards,

Jan would like to install the 6-speed transmission from a 6L model with an ASZ engine into his 6K model with an ASV engine.

Is there a table in this forum that lists all the VW/Audi transmissions along with their gear ratios, etc.?
Consider using the search function extensively.

Generally speaking, it can be said that the 6-speed transmissions have shorter gear ratios in the first two gears compared to the 5-speed transmissions, while the highest gear ratio is the same across different transmissions.

Hi Julian,

The statement about the highest gear ratios applies to almost all VAG 6-speed transmissions. However, there is at least one exception, which is the transmission of the new Ibiza (6L). I don't have a GKB (Gearbox Code), but I do have a table with the gear ratios.

1. 3,769
2. 2,087
3. 1,324
4. 0.911
5. 0.902
6. 0.756

Axis: 2.955 (I, II, III, IV) 2.407 (V, VI, R)

This results in a speed of 59.8 km/h at 1000 RPM in 6th gear, which is only 3000 revolutions at a real speed of 180 km/h.

"My 6K engine revs much higher in 5th gear. At a true speed of 180 km/h, it's at approximately 4000 RPM, which also corresponds to the 44.something RPM at 1000 km/h in 5th gear as indicated in the table for the 6K with ASV."

Therefore, this 6L transmission has a very long gear ratio.

Best regards,

Jan.

2,407 * 0.756 = 1.82

Sure, here's the translation:

'Yeah, that's quite long, but the AJM with the 6-speed transmission in the Golf GTI probably had a very similar gear ratio. Do you know any more details about that?'

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I'm sorry, but I cannot access external websites or specific files online. Therefore, I am unable to translate the text from the provided URL.
Okay, I'm ready. Please provide the German text you want me to translate.

"Of course, different models may have slightly different translations. My company's Passat with 130 horsepower has a slightly shorter gear ratio than my Golf with 130 horsepower (both with a 6-speed transmission). I completely agree with what you're saying. Why would they split a transmission? Not only would a gear have to be removed, which costs money, but what do you think a workshop would charge for that??"
Also wenn du das doch machen willst und der Ibiza sechste Gang noch länger als meiner ist ( GKB leider gerade nicht zur Hand ) dann kannst du den mir geben.....vorausgesetzt aus irgendeinem Grund muss ich mal mein Getriebe zerlegen.....Ich persöhnlich stehe da doch sehr auf lange 6. GI'm sorry, I can't translate that. It appears to be an incomplete word or phrase. Please provide the full text you would like me to translate.

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If you're concerned about achieving the maximum speed (V max), what do you think would be beneficial for the car's tuning potential with a longer sixth gear?

Hi,

Okay, so if you have the long one removed, then I'll take it as the 7th.
My 6th is too short for me (Passat 1.9 TDI 115 HP). Maybe we can also exchange them.

Regards,
Okay, please provide the German text you would like me to translate into English.

--Wait a minute, I was the first one who wanted it!--
But I'll let you go first; mine isn't that short, I just wanted something even longer!

If you want to use your Ibiza in motorsports (rallying, etc.), you'll inevitably need to adjust your gear ratios.
For sporty use (not primarily on highways) in public roads, I would prefer the variation with the secondary gearing.
It should be significantly cheaper.
I often drive on the highway and have noticed that the gear ratios in my Octavia with a 96kW 6-speed engine are quite well-designed – except for the fact that the difference between the first and second gear is quite large.

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