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Post11-09-2003, 12:01    Subject: PD 6-speed transmission on an AFN? Quote

Hello,

Does the 6-speed PD transmission (part number: DRW) fit the AFN engine block without major modifications? Does the clutch and the drive shafts fit?


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Post18-01-2004, 22:43    Subject: PD 6-speed transmission on an AFN? Quote

Yes, it will fit, but you will need different drive shafts, as well as a clutch and flywheel.

I am unable to access external websites, including the one you provided from eBay. Therefore, I cannot translate the text from the link.

That could be, for example, a flywheel for such a conversion.


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Post18-01-2004, 23:52    Subject: PD 6-speed transmission on an AFN? Quote

Hello benmen!

Does such a 6-speed transmission also fit the AGR?

As far as I know, the engine blocks for the AFN and AGR models differ slightly. Is that still possible?

Thank you for the information.

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P.S. Is it possible to get something like that registered?
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Post19-01-2004, 0:00    Subject: PD 6-speed transmission on an AFN? Quote

Yes, that works.
Adding an entry shouldn't be a problem, but that's just my guess.

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Post19-01-2004, 0:22    Subject: PD 6-speed transmission on an AFN? Quote

"I agree with Benmen, it would have to fit perfectly. Let me know if you've figured it out for sure... I'm thinking about trying to install an EGR under the AGR soon. It might be worth a try, but I haven't been able to bring myself to do it yet."
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Post19-01-2004, 1:45    Subject: PD 6-speed transmission on an AFN? Quote

If I understand you correctly, the following needs to be exchanged:

- ZMS
- Clutch
- Transmission
- Driveshafts

The flywheel, as is well known, has the starter ring gear on it. Does the diameter fit? What about the overtime marking?

Can the clutch slave cylinder from a 5-speed transmission be used?

Do you also need a new/different transmission mount (the bracket that attaches to the body) and/or a new sway bar link?

Do the drive shafts of the PD-TDIs fit onto/through the wheel hub bearings of the VP-TDIs from the early years of production?

As you can see, questions upon questions! I've also been thinking for a while about doing something good for my car and giving it a well-graded 6-speed transmission, which would allow for more torque-oriented, engine-friendly, and fuel-efficient driving, or alternatively, a more sporty driving experience icon_biggrin.gif.
I would find it very interesting and would appreciate the increased comfort (especially the reduction in noise!) that comes from lowering the engine speed on the highway.

Thank you for the competent advice and valuable insights.

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Alex.
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Post19-01-2004, 11:38    Subject: PD 6-speed transmission on an AFN? Quote

Hi Donalexo,

I've also thought about that before, and the 6-speed gearbox from the new Ibiza 6L is a very interesting candidate – 3000 RPM at a real 180 km/h in 6th gear. Okay.

I buried that idea when I checked what Seat wanted for it; if my memory serves me correctly, it was over 4000 euros!

That would only leave the option of going through the scrap yard full of wrecked cars, but whether that's something anyone wants?

I also consider this entry to be problematic, because different speeds result in different emission values.

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Post19-01-2004, 12:19    Subject: PD 6-speed transmission on an AFN? Quote


Do the drive shafts of the PD-TDIs fit onto/through the wheel hub bearings of the VP-TDIs from the early years of production?


For the Golf4/A3 platform (A4), there is only one type of driveshaft available for the 2motion models, regardless of whether it's a 1.4L or 1.8T engine. Okay, then.
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Post19-01-2004, 23:10    Subject: PD 6-speed transmission on an AFN? Quote

Well, if that's the case, then a defect should never occur on the 1.4-liter engine... How much torque does it actually produce? Is it around 120 Nm?
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Post20-01-2004, 10:11    Subject: PD 6-speed transmission on an AFN? Quote

"The seller on his eBay page writes that the part is also supposed to fit the conventional 1.9 model, whatever 'conventional' might mean."

Since my EGR valve is already showing some signs of wear due to the extreme tuning (slipping clutch between 2,000 and 2,500 RPM), I would like to treat it to a replacement.

Does anyone know for sure if this fits the AGR model?
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Post24-01-2004, 21:19    Subject: PD 6-speed transmission on an AFN? Quote

Okay, so I'll tell you a bit more, as I've already built a DRW (Downpipe Replacement with Wastegate) for a 1.9L TDI 110PS ASV engine.

It is simply FALSE that there is only one type of drive shaft for 2-motion systems.
Different drive shafts are needed for the DRW (Dual Rear Wheel) configuration, but the drive shafts on the wheel side are the same.

The DRW no longer has a separate slave cylinder, as it is now integrated into the release bearing. The pressure line connects directly to the transmission, but you will need the small bleed adapter, as it also serves as an adapter.

The control panel can be reused. Only the diverter valves and similar components need to be replaced.

The flywheel and clutch need to be replaced together, as the flywheel has a different ring gear. Additionally, a new starter motor is also required.


Parts needed, excluding the transmission, starter, clutch, and flywheel.

Gearbox bearing 1x 1J0 199 555 AQ 61.48
Ventilation valve 1x 1J0 721 468 B 16.53
Console 1x 1J0 199 177 AK 25.58
Hexagon socket head screw 3x N 905 970 02 0.82
Hexagon socket head screw. 1x. Part number: N 907 076 02. Price: 3.07.
Shift lever 1x 1J0 711 051 C 20.18
Hexagon socket head cap nut 1x N 909 083 01 1.00
Deflection lever 1x 1J0 711 202 E 14.44
Bearing bush 2x 1J0 711 067 L 0.79
Washer 1x Part No. N 908 159 03 Price: 0.16
Support 1x 1J0 711 781 B 14.73
Hexagon screw 3x N 101 069 03 0.28
Washer 6x 443 407 357 1.16
Cylinder screw 12x N 105 234 01 0.57
Dodecagon nut (mother) 2x N 905 876 02 3.89
Hexagon socket head screw 2x N 908 271 01 5.10



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Post27-01-2004, 21:27    Subject: PD 6-speed transmission on an AFN? Quote

yes, that works.
Adding an entry shouldn't be a problem, but that's just my guess.

Regards,
BM

Unfortunately, you can't register something like that without a valid emissions test report for the engine/transmission combination.

Can the conversion be done on a longitudinally mounted AFN engine in an Audi A4?

Regards,

Manuel.
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