Pierburg MAF Sensor: Now Officially for TDI Engines

Hello,

Okay, here's the translation:

"Now it's here, the mass airflow sensor from Pierburg for the TDI and the..."
officially.

See:
http://www.msi-motor-service.de/download/luftversorgung/int/pg_luftversorgung_2005.pdf
http://www.msi-motor-service.de/download/luftversorgung/int/lv_z_referenzliste.pdf

There are already some providers listed on eBay.
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=9895&item=7949256225&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

It's likely that you can also obtain this part through independent automotive parts retailers.

What is the structural difference between the Bosch and Pierburg mass airflow sensors?
If they claim that the error should not occur again.

Now, the Pierburg mass airflow sensor for the TDI is available.

...back again! There used to be a company called Pierburg. So, my first mass airflow sensor still provides readings of <850mg/h, and that's after 215,000 km. Hopefully, it stays that way.

Regards,
Master craftsman.

Hi Master Brewer,

You probably mean values > 850, right?

<850 is something every LMM can achieve if you push them .

However, this is also dependent on the MSTG regulations. My 1Z engine also has the Pierburg system (which was the only option at the time), and there are no values exceeding 847.9 mg/H.

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@ vagtuning

If I understood correctly back then, the difference lies...
on the surfaces of the HFM (Hot-Film Mass Flow Meter).
For the Bosch brand, the surface of the HFM is gold-vapor-deposited.
Pierburg has a layer of platinum on it.
This should serve as a protective layer for the membrane, as platinum has a higher...
If a material has high strength, its lifespan should also be longer.

Whether this is still the case, or if other changes have occurred.
I don't know.


http://rb-k.bosch.de/de/start/product_ds_06_luftms_sens.html

You probably mean values > 850, right?

'Every LMM (Large Language Model) can achieve a score of 850 if you feed it the right information.'



...sorry, I misspoke. Actually, my values are greater than 900. I just checked again.

Regards,
Master craftsman.

Hello,

Okay, here's the translation:

'Now it's here, the mass airflow sensor from Pierburg for the TDI and the...'
officially.

See:
http://www.msi-motor-service.de/download/luftversorgung/int/pg_luftversorgung_2005.pdf
http://www.msi-motor-service.de/download/luftversorgung/int/lv_z_referenzliste.pdf

There are already some providers listed on eBay.



Sure, here is the translation of the text from German to English:

'See also my question:'
/viewtopic.php?t=7752&highlight=

So, the rumor is actually true...
Hopefully, this will finally be a lasting solution... Does anyone know the VW costs and the direct solution?

Sure, I'd be happy to.
@hame22 Great information, if that's the case.

Sure, here is the translation of the text from German to English:

'So long'

This phrase is a common way to say goodbye in English. It is similar to the German phrase 'Auf Wiedersehen'.

Here are some other ways to say goodbye in English:

* Goodbye
* Bye
* See you later
* See you soon
* Have a good day
* Take care

I hope this helps!



Regards,
Thorsten.

Hi,

That's correct.
My friend ordered some car accessories online today.
(Alhambra TDI 110 hp)
Price: €59 + VAT.
The dealer also found the mass airflow sensor in Pierburg's catalog.

Hi,

That's correct.
My friend ordered some car accessories online today.
(Alhambra TDI 110 hp)
Price: €59 + VAT.
The dealer also found the mass airflow sensor in Pierburg's catalog.

I would find it interesting to see comparison logs, for example, of the MWB 008, comparing a working Bosch unit to the Pierburg unit, to see if the Pierburg actually delivers similar values.

I can easily imagine that Pierburg would be interested in being 'slightly' better under the same conditions, because they can assume that this information will quickly spread within the industry, and that, besides the price, it might be the main reason why people wouldn't use the 'original' mass airflow sensor.

Now it's time to wait and hope that someone will take the trouble .

Best regards,
herwig

Hi,

Now, the only question that remains is whether the self-installation into the existing pipe is possible without any problems.
According to my current information, VW only sells the parts as a set, including the pipe, because they are supposedly calibrated together.
That's also why we have that ridiculous 5-sided screw.

Hello Roger,
The pipe and the installation should be reproducible!
However, I could imagine that transporting it using a pipe would be safer.
Best regards,
Günther.

Hello Roger,
The pipe and the installation should be reproducible!
However, I could imagine that transporting it using a pipe would be safer.
Best regards,
Günther

Okay. In the PDF from Pierburg, as shown in Thorsten's post at the top, it states 'Probe without measuring tube.'

I can't quite understand what purpose this requirement serves. Bosch likely offers a version with a pipe, as I've seen at OEAMTC, and that pipe shouldn't be that expensive.

Why should one replace the pipe and pay for it, especially since it doesn't wear out? What's the obstacle if, instead of using the Phillips head screws that secure the pipe to the air filter housing, you use screws that can be loosened with security bits? Even a regular combination pliers can be used to loosen the screw at the flange, so you don't need to buy any tools just to open those two screws, which you might only need to do every few years. There are no visible modifications to the pipe that would allow for 'tuning' to the mass airflow sensor (MAF), and such modifications would hardly be included in mass production. If desired, after the initial disassembly, you can also replace the security screws with Phillips head screws.

"Yes, I also installed a PD (positive displacement) blower from a different manufacturer into my ALH (Audi A4/A6/A8 engine). It works great. Because the blower's intake pipe is slightly different, I also had to loosen those infamous safety screws. You wouldn't believe it, but they come loose easily if you grip them on the edge with a simple, ribbed pliers. Even if you only have a cheap, generic pliers from a discount store like Aldi."

PS: I'm also curious to see what values the new LLMs will produce.

Hello,

I think it's important to mention one more thing:
The replacement mass airflow sensor (MAF sensor) from Pierburg requires a modification approval process because only a parts testing certificate is included.
The vehicle registration documents also need to be corrected.
However, this has been postponed until the next time the licensing authority reviews the vehicle documents.

The eBay seller that hame22 linked to also mentions the parts certificate.
I hadn't looked at the link, so I ordered the LMM (lambda sensor) from a local parts supplier.
This is not meant to be an accusation.
I just want to point out the additional costs that arise when you want to comply with the German Road Traffic Regulations (StVZO).

Best regards,

Frank.

Hello,

I think it's important to mention one more thing:
The replacement mass airflow sensor (MAF sensor) from Pierburg requires a modification approval process because only a parts testing certificate is included.
The vehicle registration documents also need to be corrected.
However, this has been postponed until the next time the licensing authority reviews the vehicle documents.

The eBay seller that hame22 linked to also mentions the parts certificate.
I hadn't looked at the link, so I ordered the LMM (lambda sensor) from a local parts supplier.
This is not meant to be an accusation.
I just want to point out the additional costs that arise when you want to comply with the German Road Traffic Regulations (StVZO).

Best regards,

Frank

Hello,
Who will notice that, and who will complain about it?
Best regards, Günther.