Keilrippenriemen quietscht! | Posts 16+

06-02-2003, 20:47 Subject:

Bertil wrote:

... have you ever heard of a warranty?

Hi Bertil,

actually, yes... I would take the

tensioner back and keep bothering them until I get a new one. But the warranty should apply to the part itself... of course, it would be more complicated to prove a defect, for example, with a timing belt, but IF the installation of the

tensioner is as easy as I think, then they are legally obligated to take the part back within 2 years, or am I mistaken?

Best regards, Christian.

06-02-2003, 20:59 Subject:

Bertil wrote:

Only with aircraft engines is the maintenance so complex and expensive that you cannot apply the same principles to a car (engine). Or do you expect your workshop to use X-rays to examine the timing belt in order to detect potential damage earlier?

If the workshops were to do this, I guarantee you an 80% reduction in timing belt failures!

Hi Bertil,

My comparison is, of course, a bit exaggerated... I would already be satisfied with a chain instead of a timing belt. Okay, it stretches, but I don't have a problem with replacing a timing belt or chain -> it's actually fun (but only if you set the timing correctly *whine* *grin*), but rather with the thought that one of my hydraulic lifters might fall into my lap while I'm driving

. And I'm willing to bet that you can design that stupid torsion spring in the tensioner so that it lasts for the entire life of a car without incurring significant extra costs.

Best regards, Christian.

06-02-2003, 21:34 Subject:

haehnlein wrote:

....I would take the spanner back and keep bothering them until I get a new one

But surely the warranty must apply to the item itself....

... that's exactly what I had someone else do...
and the warranty applies to the part.

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... IF the installation with the Spanner is as easy as I think, then they are legally obligated to take the part back within 2 years, or am I mistaken

?

I think the installation is straightforward because I've worked on one before.

By the way, this was before the 24-month warranty period.

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that this stupid torsion spring in the tensioner can be designed in such a way that it lasts for the entire life of a car without incurring significant extra costs.

If a cost accountant notices that Supplier B is 3 cents cheaper than Supplier A, the cheaper option is often chosen. Then there's a risk that the quality will suffer significantly.

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@bertil

'For bean counters, quality doesn't matter. The main thing is that it's cheap, and they can prove that they've saved amount X! Perhaps supplier B will even give the bean counter a 'gift'!'

@all
Okay, on my 1Z model, replacing this spring tensioner is really simple! Just loosen the Allen screw in the middle of the tensioner. This allows you to push the axis with the tensioner towards the air filter box. Then, loosen the two screws on the tensioner. Reinstall in the reverse order. It takes about 1/4 of an hour, that's all!

06-02-2003, 22:00 Subject:

joergs wrote:

The bean counters don't care about quality.

All they care about is that it's cheap and that they can prove they've saved amount x!

joergs wrote:

Maybe supplier B will even give the bean counter a "gift"!}

Hi Joerg,

Germany isn't in a bad enough situation yet for the seriousness of the situation to be fully recognized. I read in the FAZ yesterday that 100,000 highly skilled people emigrated abroad last year...probably including those who wouldn't want to continue working with TDI technology. Too bad, actually.

Okay, so on my 1Z, replacing this spring tensioner is very simple! Loosen the Allen screw in the middle of the tensioner element; you can then push the axis with the tensioner towards the air filter box. Loosen the two screws on the tensioner element. Installation is in the reverse order. It takes about 1/4 of an hour!

as a hobbyist who likes to tinker, it's something that can be put into practice perfectly.

Best regards, Christian.