| Author |
Message |
Holger247 Schrauber

Joined: 11/05/2002 Posts: 259 Karma: +0 / -0 Location: Böblingen
Support
|
29-08-2010, 18:40 Subject: |
Quote |
|
To help with drying, I would also suggest lifting the carpet and insulation mats, for example, by propping them up against the doors.
Perhaps dry it by placing newspapers underneath.
These insulation mats are quite thick, and it takes forever for them to dry out in this summer weather.
If you wait too long, it will start to rot.
--------------------------------------------
GIV - 98 - ALH
Touran 5T 2.0 TDI
Translated on 03-07-2026, 15:19.
|
|
| Back to top |
Profile PM |
 |
haithamina Schrauber

Joined: 05/15/2006 Posts: 666 Karma: +27 / -3 Location: 69221 Dossenheim
Premium Support
|
24-09-2010, 20:39 Subject: |
Quote |
|
After removing the porous sealing strip from the aggregate carrier or baking tray on the passenger side and applying VW sealing cord, I can no longer fit the lock cylinder housing into the door handle or the door!
I need to thread a cable through the door handle (similar to a bicycle brake cable with a cylindrical end), which is connected to a lock. The lock is then mounted on the engine support.
After that, the cylinder housing should be inserted from the outside and secured with a locking ring. The locking ring is rotated with a screw, causing it to slide under the protrusions of the cylinder housing and fix it in place. The screw is accessed from the side of the lock and its mounting screws.
It's just not working out, even in the ideal scenario (the rope isn't hooked onto the door handle, the generator carrier is far away, and I'm trying to figure out from the inside how it's supposed to work).
Does anyone else experience this problem, and can anyone offer any advice?
I'm feeling really down. There's been a marital argument, I'm expecting visitors tomorrow, it's raining and dark, and right now I'm only seeing the option of packing everything away, locking the door, replacing the missing window with a plastic bag, and getting everything to the recycling center as soon as possible.
haithamina
/viewtopic.php?t=24045
PS: I can't edit my uploads, so I can't delete the PDF file that I accidentally uploaded four times!!!
3G5, 110 kW, DFGA, TGV, Variant HL 2018-
ex 3G5, 110 kW, CRLB, QFZ, Variant HL, 2015-2018, 108 Tkm
ex 3BG, 74 kW, DPF, AVB, EEN, Variant HL, 2003-2015, 271 Tkm
Translated on 03-07-2026, 15:19.
|
|
| Back to top |
Profile PM |
 |
BM Profi-Schrauber


Joined: 12/07/2005 Posts: 1857 Karma: +8 / -0 Location: Nähe Düsseldorf
Premium Support
|
25-09-2010, 0:02 Subject: |
Quote |
|
To be able to open the locking ring far enough, it is actually necessary to pull and hold the door handle during disassembly, if I remember correctly. In this position, the spring bar (which retracts the handle) is also blocked by the locking ring. Normally, the matter remains in this state until the locking cylinder is reattached.
If the locking ring has come loose or been removed, the first step is to contact the relevant department. To bring something to a certain state.
If you've already installed everything to this point, carefully pull the door handle and try to open the ring further.
The latch for opening should not be installed too tightly. It's best to reattach it in its original position. If necessary, use a flashlight for assistance.
3B5 AJM
Wer nichts weiss, muss alles glauben.
**Technische Fragen bitte ins Forum und nicht in mein Postfach**
LG, Onkel BM
Translated on 03-07-2026, 15:19.
|
|
| Back to top |
Profile PM |
 |
haithamina Schrauber

Joined: 05/15/2006 Posts: 666 Karma: +27 / -3 Location: 69221 Dossenheim
Premium Support
|
25-09-2010, 12:01 Subject: |
Quote |
|
Hello BM,
Yes, that pulling of the door handle must be the key to success. After removing the cylinder housing, the handle returned to its normal position. During the assembly attempt of the SZG (likely a type of door or window mechanism), the locking ring fell into the door.
I still don't understand how he's supposed to be guided in the storage bracket, and how I'm supposed to secure the SZG (presumably a specific component) to it without the locking ring from the inside preventing it from falling out. Now, it's time to understand the role of the doorknob and the function of the ring.
You're welcome, André.
3G5, 110 kW, DFGA, TGV, Variant HL 2018-
ex 3G5, 110 kW, CRLB, QFZ, Variant HL, 2015-2018, 108 Tkm
ex 3BG, 74 kW, DPF, AVB, EEN, Variant HL, 2003-2015, 271 Tkm
Translated on 03-07-2026, 15:19.
|
|
| Back to top |
Profile PM |
 |
BM Profi-Schrauber


Joined: 12/07/2005 Posts: 1857 Karma: +8 / -0 Location: Nähe Düsseldorf
Premium Support
|
25-09-2010, 13:02 Subject: |
Quote |
|
Quote: | During the assembly attempt of the SZG, the locking ring fell into the door...
I still don't understand how he is supposed to be guided in the storage bracket, and how I am supposed to fix the SZG (specialized gripping device) to it without preventing the locking ring from coming loose from the inside. |
Normally, the A-ring is held in place by the outer retaining tabs in the aluminum part of the bearing bracket, but only if it is open far enough. If it is too closed or too open, it will fall into the door. In any case, it must be open enough so that the drawn firing pin is blocked.
The cylinder must be able to be inserted without requiring any force.
3B5 AJM
Wer nichts weiss, muss alles glauben.
**Technische Fragen bitte ins Forum und nicht in mein Postfach**
LG, Onkel BM
Translated on 03-07-2026, 15:19.
|
|
| Back to top |
Profile PM |
 |
pax Profi-Schrauber


Joined: 12/10/2003 Posts: 426 Karma: +10 / -0
2000 Volkswagen Passat Support
|
26-09-2010, 16:48 Subject: |
Quote |
|
Hello,
I'm not 100% sure if this is the solution to your problem, but as far as I remember, you need to put a lever on the door lock mechanism into a position other than the normal operating position for the installation. Then you assemble it, and when you operate the door handle once, it should snap back into the operating position. I'm currently searching on my computer to see if I can find a picture that would help me better explain what I'm trying to say.
Bye.
peace
Edit: I've uploaded a somewhat usable picture of a castle (at the back, as far as I remember) to the upload thread on the relevant topic.
Translated on 03-07-2026, 15:19.
|
|
| Back to top |
Profile PM Garage |
 |
BM Profi-Schrauber


Joined: 12/07/2005 Posts: 1857 Karma: +8 / -0 Location: Nähe Düsseldorf
Premium Support
|
26-09-2010, 19:14 Subject: |
Quote |
|
Quote: | | I'm currently searching on my hard drive to see if I can find a picture that will give my words more explanatory power. |
I am familiar with this feather as well. It seems to be an assembly aid for...
In practice, it's probably rather pointless.
It has nothing to do with the installation of the lock cylinder.
3B5 AJM
Wer nichts weiss, muss alles glauben.
**Technische Fragen bitte ins Forum und nicht in mein Postfach**
LG, Onkel BM
Translated on 03-07-2026, 15:19.
|
|
| Back to top |
Profile PM |
 |
haithamina Schrauber

Joined: 05/15/2006 Posts: 666 Karma: +27 / -3 Location: 69221 Dossenheim
Premium Support
|
26-09-2010, 20:25 Subject: |
Quote |
|
Guys,
I spent more hours on it and completely failed. No matter how I tried or thought about it, there's no way.
The ring is rotated using the screw, and there is only one position where the screw head fits into a groove, allowing the ring to be pushed/pulled in two directions, as shown in the photo (green ring). In this position, the ring is guided only at the top within the bearing bracket, yellow ring.
Even without the hoist carrier and without the rope attached to the handle, meaning as a dry run with the ability to observe the process and manipulate the ring, I was never able to fix the cylinder housing. When tightening the screw, the ring at the bottom moved towards the inside of the door instead of sliding under the protrusions of the cylinder housing, the red rings. Even the upper part of the nose was not caught, despite the loop being positioned at the top.
The ring will not bend. It is made of thick steel sheet metal. It seems that no parts are missing.
While the handle is held in the open position, that's not relevant. Now comes the walk to the friendly person, with one's head bowed low...
I am unable to translate "haithamina" because it does not appear to be a word or phrase in the German language. It may be a misspelling, a proper noun, or a term from a specialized field. If you can provide more context or clarify the intended meaning, I would be happy to assist you with the translation.
| Description: |
|
 Download |
| File name: |
Arretierungsring2.pdf |
| File size: |
2.51 MB |
| Downloaded: |
1105 times |
3G5, 110 kW, DFGA, TGV, Variant HL 2018-
ex 3G5, 110 kW, CRLB, QFZ, Variant HL, 2015-2018, 108 Tkm
ex 3BG, 74 kW, DPF, AVB, EEN, Variant HL, 2003-2015, 271 Tkm
Translated on 03-07-2026, 15:19.
|
|
| Back to top |
Profile PM |
 |
BM Profi-Schrauber


Joined: 12/07/2005 Posts: 1857 Karma: +8 / -0 Location: Nähe Düsseldorf
Premium Support
|
26-09-2010, 21:49 Subject: |
Quote |
|
I have no idea what you've done. It's possible that something broke off from the aluminum part due to improper disassembly (e.g., the handle not being pulled), and that piece was holding the "A" ring in place. If the A-ring is assembled correctly, it will not fall out.
3B5 AJM
Wer nichts weiss, muss alles glauben.
**Technische Fragen bitte ins Forum und nicht in mein Postfach**
LG, Onkel BM
Translated on 03-07-2026, 15:19.
|
|
| Back to top |
Profile PM |
 |
haithamina Schrauber

Joined: 05/15/2006 Posts: 666 Karma: +27 / -3 Location: 69221 Dossenheim
Premium Support
|
27-09-2010, 13:38 Subject: |
Quote |
|
Hi BM,
It's clear I'm completely missing the point: The expansion and installation attempts were carried out with the help of "Now I'm having a lot of fun tinkering myself."
The handle was pulled out during disassembly.
During installation, the handle should be pressed against the door while saying "Now...", and the lock cylinder housing should also be pressed against the door, not pulled.
During removal, no force is applied to either the locking ring or the cylinder housing.
There are no visible cracks or sharp edges on the hanger.
I know this all seems strange, as it seems like any body shop should be able to do this easily. But it's still a puzzle to me: The guides for the locking "ring" are arranged at an angle of approximately 315°, which means that the "ring," which opens much wider, about 220°, can only be guided either from the top or from the bottom. See the picture in my previous post. The guides are located in the aluminum mounting bracket (yellow circle at the top), the aluminum block with the numbers stamped on it, and the aluminum block at the bottom with the numbers stamped on it, into which the screw goes. The guide elements of the A-ring are the sheet metal wings, which are its "ends".
I'm going to the mechanic tomorrow and will try to ask him some questions. If I have clearer vision after this, I will report it here.
I am unable to translate "haithamina" because it does not appear to be a word or phrase in the German language. It may be a misspelling, a proper noun, or a term from a specialized field. If you can provide more context or clarify the intended meaning, I would be happy to assist you with the translation.
3G5, 110 kW, DFGA, TGV, Variant HL 2018-
ex 3G5, 110 kW, CRLB, QFZ, Variant HL, 2015-2018, 108 Tkm
ex 3BG, 74 kW, DPF, AVB, EEN, Variant HL, 2003-2015, 271 Tkm
Translated on 03-07-2026, 15:19.
|
|
| Back to top |
Profile PM |
 |
BM Profi-Schrauber


Joined: 12/07/2005 Posts: 1857 Karma: +8 / -0 Location: Nähe Düsseldorf
Premium Support
|
28-09-2010, 0:43 Subject: |
Quote |
|
Quote: | I'm going to the friendly person tomorrow and will try to ask the knowledgeable one. If I have clearer vision after this, I will report it here.
|
It's a bit late, but still.
I zoomed in on your last photo. It's quite clear from that that the ring isn't fitting properly. The retaining clips do not sit inside the groove, but rather in front of it.
It can only be used correctly in the position previously described (closed --> screw tightened).
3B5 AJM
Wer nichts weiss, muss alles glauben.
**Technische Fragen bitte ins Forum und nicht in mein Postfach**
LG, Onkel BM
Translated on 03-07-2026, 15:19.
|
|
| Back to top |
Profile PM |
 |
haithamina Schrauber

Joined: 05/15/2006 Posts: 666 Karma: +27 / -3 Location: 69221 Dossenheim
Premium Support
|
28-09-2010, 12:48 Subject: |
Quote |
|
Hello BM,
Thank you!
I dropped off the car this morning. The mechanic was very nice, and thankfully, the expected sarcastic laughter didn't happen. His comment was, "It's just not for everyday use!" Let's see...
It had to be something so simple! In theory, I'm currently wondering how I'm supposed to get the ring into the guides if the screw is tightened. I have to slide it into the guides towards the A-pillar, which isn't possible if the screw is tightened (?!). So, I would have to insert it at an angle, which would allow the notch to tilt onto the screw head. I can't imagine that being possible.
As I mentioned, I thought I had explored all the possibilities...
haithamina
Aunt Edith:
It cost just under 86 euros. I had already applied sealant, so the installer only had to assemble everything. Sealing the entire area would likely cost approximately twice as much.
So, I haven't actually learned how to do it properly. The photos they took didn't show the correct positioning of the A-ring.
3G5, 110 kW, DFGA, TGV, Variant HL 2018-
ex 3G5, 110 kW, CRLB, QFZ, Variant HL, 2015-2018, 108 Tkm
ex 3BG, 74 kW, DPF, AVB, EEN, Variant HL, 2003-2015, 271 Tkm
Translated on 03-07-2026, 15:19.
|
|
| Back to top |
Profile PM |
 |
haithamina Schrauber

Joined: 05/15/2006 Posts: 666 Karma: +27 / -3 Location: 69221 Dossenheim
Premium Support
|
19-10-2010, 22:52 Subject: |
Quote |
|
Hello, and by the way:
"The other day, I was a passenger in my own car. My wife had just had the door/lock reassembled by the dealership, and she immediately said, 'Now it's difficult to get out of the car!'"
I couldn't tell from the outside by looking at the door, but the passenger getting out could.
Pulling the handle unlocks the door, the door opens a little, but then it catches briefly, and I think the door "sags" when you push it open further.
Friday is the day the workshop can provide its feedback...
haithamina
Aunt Edith says: Okay, so today it was the "Friendly" guy's turn. He removed the cardboard, the train was checked, the cardboard was put back on, and the result: no change! Ende Gelände.
I have the impression that the lock mechanism is a bit "sticky." That's why I used a can of silicone lubricant, and it works better now. Otherwise, the door fits well and doesn't sag. Ultimately, the spring in the locking mechanism is probably just too weak, or some grease has become hardened. I will continue to observe this.
3G5, 110 kW, DFGA, TGV, Variant HL 2018-
ex 3G5, 110 kW, CRLB, QFZ, Variant HL, 2015-2018, 108 Tkm
ex 3BG, 74 kW, DPF, AVB, EEN, Variant HL, 2003-2015, 271 Tkm
Translated on 03-07-2026, 15:19.
|
|
| Back to top |
Profile PM |
 |
|